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no it isn't. don't listen to bozza. the ball was going into the back of the net, stopping it with your arm = red card.

I don't listen to Bozza. FIFA law 12 states the sending off offence as:

"denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)"

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I don't listen to Bozza. FIFA law 12 states the sending off offence as:

"denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)"

stop being an idiot. do you know what 'deliberate' means in that context?

put it this way: if a bloke is the last man and accidentally trips a dude over, he's sent off. doesn't matter if he meant it or not. if the ball is going into the goal and someone handballs it, he's sent off. doesn't matter of he "meant" it or not.
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I said it wasn't deliberate, you agreed with me but said it was still going in and therefore it was a sending off. I said "The law states deliberate" to which you replied "No it doesn't". I quoted the law and now you're saying I'm an idiot.

Accidental does not equal deliberate, I don't know what you're on about. Your example about the trip is covered under a different point in law 12 which says "denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick" and does not include the word deliberate.

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dude. I'm not going to continue this because you being a spurs supporter is clouding your vision.

Collins shouldn't have been sent off because he didn't mean to take madebayor out etc
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Not my vision being clouded at all, I'm going by the letter of the law which - wasn't followed in this case.

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lucky break for Leicester. serves Everton right for not having done with it earlier.
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you wouldn't believe it. debut and all. well in.
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Eric fucking Dier on his debut. Whoot!

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you have to ask though, wtf was he doing up there?! he's been signed as a defender, not a striker
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True. To be fair he'd moved to full back after the sending off. Had a pretty decent game in defence I thought too.

Best part of the game was definitely the pitch invader's free kick:

https://vine.co/v/M3mMh7dKTa2

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yeah he did well. haha enjoyed that lloris took this time to save it

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great free kick, hangeland at fault for both goals
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True. To be fair he'd moved to full back after the sending off. Had a pretty decent game in defence I thought too.

Best part of the game was definitely the pitch invader's free kick:

https://vine.co/v/M3mMh7dKTa2

Was epic!

Thought Dier had a great debut.. We actually looked better across the back 4 once Naughton was gone.

Agree harsh on the sending off but I think Noble ballsing up the penalty squared it up.

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I love the look of Chambers.
Cazorla had a shocker, he really does let the left side down when he's out there, much rather Ox.
Sanogo to me still looks like a church league player, terrible.
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dude. I'm not going to continue this because you being a spurs supporter is clouding your vision.

Collins shouldn't have been sent off because he didn't mean to take madebayor out etc

Nope, you're just plainly wrong. Not a red card.
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Nope, you're just plainly wrong. Not a red card.

so you're saying that if a dude is STANDING ON THE GOAL LINE and handballs it, preventing it from going in the goal, he'd only get a yellow because he didn't mean it?
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That is correct. It's not deliberate therefore not a red. Simple stuff.
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mate. do you realise that while he didn't actually mean it, the fact that his arms are up in the air mean that the action is considered deliberate? how long have you been watching this sport for?

regardless, he was sent off for preventing a goal.

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mate. do you realise that while he didn't actually mean it, the fact that his arms are up in the air mean that the action is considered deliberate? how long have you been watching this sport for?

regardless, he was sent off for preventing a goal.

So now you're saying it is deliberate? That is the crux of the issue.
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As far as handball goes arms in an 'unnatural position' == deliberate.

*note - I did not see the incident.
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Red card was harsh imo, even though it was a clear penalty for "deliberate" hand ball. There's a world of difference between that and Suarez or Ox, for example.
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i'm not debating that it was harsh, and im not for a second saying that he's suarezzed it, i'm just saying that the penalty was given for 'deliberate' (ie hands away from the body) handball and that it was headed for the top corner. i don't actually agree with the decision, but i can see why the ref has felt like he had no option but to send him off.

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Interesting to see how that affects United. Really feels like they needed to start well and that may have take the wind out of the golden willy.
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the determination from Henderson to get that ball and keep it was just as good as his through ball. good goal.
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