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Hey everyone

*cue tumbleweed + owl hooting in the distance

anyway, noticed we don't have a general dnb thread for discussion/questions/nostalgia/hating on jump up in, think its about time !


First question;

What ever happened to Dillinja ? I have all his old EPs and they are all dirty as fuck with typical Dillinja bass and all that, then all his recent stuff (power of Ra remix lololol) just sounds like g-dub/old O-sin/logan d, I think it would be really good if him and Lemon D (lemonde or whateva he goes by now) would tour Oz, but it would be all Mr Happy b2b D for Danger

also, how can he still not beat-match? whats with that? I'm pretty sure I'v seen a youtube vid where he owns a vinyl lathe, and I know he co-owns one of the baddest dnb sound systems ever made, so you would think he would have learnt to beatmatch by now, for shame, for shame


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What does everyone think of Metalheadz? I still rate them as one of the best labels out there, but every time I go to a record store they hardly have any releases? How does everyone think a Metalheadz tour would do in oz ? Something like Commix, A -sides, Heist (playing his good stuff) etc, would be good to break up all the Cheese and Status shit that we r about to be bombarded with imo !

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Dillinger and Lemon D used to be to my tastes, not sure now.

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Was thinking about starting up a general discussion thread, dude, nice work

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big-ups Dart or whoever was behind getting Makoto to play for free at Roller next Thursday, will probably be one of the most packed (and they are all packed),

anyway, I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but dubstep is over?

was reading on doa or somewhere and some dude on there put it nicely, he said that basically the time at which dubstep became really big was when dnb was going all "machete" with big schreechy synths and heaps of wobble/noise, and dubstep was a nice stripped back sound that was a welcome alternative, (cue autonomic stuff coming out a little later)

Now that dubstep has become a schreechy wall of wobble/noise, he argued that is has lost what is was essentially all about

I really like the murky, dark stuff so i hope that sticks around, but i don't think i'll regret it if borgore/rusko stop making tunes

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big-ups Dart or whoever was behind getting Makoto to play for free at Roller next Thursday, will probably be one of the most packed (and they are all packed),

you coming down peaker?

i'm not sure what i'm looking forward to more, makoto's set, warming up for makoto, or sardi & muller's classics set after makoto.

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oh cool, I'm glad that classic set is still going down, you must be stoked warming up for Makoto, a recipe for a memorable night for sure,

I'll be there for sure (if i can get work off!!!), if you're not too busy i'll say come say hi for sure but I'd dare say you'll have your hands more than full,
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^ I am looking forward to Roller & Makoto =)
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^ I am looking forward to Roller & Makoto =)

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Makoto was very good in Bali, enjoy lads.
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Perth , last thursday !
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big-ups Dart or whoever was behind getting Makoto to play for free at Roller next Thursday, will probably be one of the most packed (and they are all packed),

anyway, I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but dubstep is over?

was reading on doa or somewhere and some dude on there put it nicely, he said that basically the time at which dubstep became really big was when dnb was going all "machete" with big schreechy synths and heaps of wobble/noise, and dubstep was a nice stripped back sound that was a welcome alternative, (cue autonomic stuff coming out a little later)

Now that dubstep has become a schreechy wall of wobble/noise, he argued that is has lost what is was essentially all about

I really like the murky, dark stuff so i hope that sticks around, but i don't think i'll regret it if borgore/rusko stop making tunes

discuss !

I don't follow him heaps closely, but I still like some of the stuff Rusko does. But yeah, it is becoming harder to find dubstep stuff I really like.
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Makoto last Thurs was beri naisu! ^-^

Caspa still pulled a massive crowd at 2pm on a 35C day at Stereosonic (Perth) on Sunday >_<
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Soooooooo...the A.I. album is complete gash. What the fuck happened to those guys, I used to love their shit. The production is utter toilet; so messy and noisy and...and...UGH.

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it would have been great if they'd released it 3 years ago. now it sounds dated and other people have leap frogged them building on their sound.

blind eye is pretty good though.
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Whats with that ? I can never understand why certain producers / labels take so long to bring out tracks ? Do they think the pro's of having exclusive tracks will outweight having a really big fresh lp ?

I think RAM has got to be the worst,

Heard follow the light and XXX in 2006/2007, then when his LP finally came out, it was all "meh", been thrashed
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Yep, the dubplate culture of DnB can suck my balls. It's always pissed me off.
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Because it swear certain "old school" DJs wouldn't even get any work if they wern't part of the dubplate circle jerk

*cough* Grooverider *cough*
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I'm pretty lazy diggin into DnB ... someone recommend me some tunage along the lines of Congo Natty/Rebel MC

Chopstick Dubplate.
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was listening to a mix in the car, and thinking about how much i have been out of touch of the radio lately.
then i thought "people tell me dubstep is mainstream now, so i wonder how much gets played on JJJ."
so i switch over and sure enough. dirty wobbly screaming noise dubstep is playing...
admittedly it was major lazer choosing the songs, but the host said something like
"everytime we play dubstep people lose their shit"
wtf?
but yeh i do like the non-scarey bigtime happy sounding dubstep.
dnb has a place for me still i think though.
recently been getting some more or something dunno wtf is up with my musical taste lol
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so what's the problem exactly?

That poorer quality DJs are getting booked in palce of new producers / talent due to the fact they got dubs (blud ! )
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But isn't DJing all about tune selection?

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Yeah tune selection not tune possession !


IMO if you need the crutch of exclusive tunes to get booked, you're already admitting your not as good as the next man

Fair play if your a producer and they're your own tracks, that a given, but if you were maybe once relevant to the scene 10 years ago and are still just riding on that to get booked, maybe its time to give it up

all the old timers who have done SFA recently all play jump up now anyway

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Yeah tune selection not tune possession !


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why in earth it such a shame?

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Because it swear certain "old school" DJs wouldn't even get any work if they wern't part of the dubplate circle jerk

*cough* Grooverider *cough*

He's the fucking worst, always wanking on about having this or that tune months before it'll be out.

Funkedub, the problem is that by the time a lot of tracks actually get released, you're sick of them.
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Yeah tune selection not tune possession !


We've passed the era when exclusive plates and acetates gave a crew/system/DJ their edge and crowd pulling power ... but i don't begrudge anyone who still uses such practices to keep running successful gigs.

I don't keep my finger on the pulse of upcoming releases of any genre to give a fuk about how long someone has been playing a tune out or not.

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I reckon its not soley about what tunes you have sometimes but how you mix them

eg. Andy C could probably make any shitty tune sound good because he knows how to mix and create a strong vibe
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Yeah Funkdub thats all well and good, but will you still buy a tune that you've been after for 2 years?

I'v got nothing against people testing out dubs for a couple of months prior to them getting pressed, but it seems stupid when this process goes on for so long that by the time they get pressed they are already old

I remember hearing Dillinja - Fly Away on Goldies essential mix in 2006, pretty sure this got released on white-label earlier this year, 4 years is just taking the piss IMO !

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Yeah Funkdub thats all well and good, but will you still buy a tune that you've been after for 2 years?

I'v got nothing against people testing out dubs for a couple of months prior to them getting pressed, but it seems stupid when this process goes on for so long that by the time they get pressed they are already old


damn straight i'll by a tune i've been after for 2 years ... fuk man, i'm still chasing tunes i first heard 10 years ago and they weren't even fresh then ... when a track was released has no bearing on my liking for it or desire for a copy myself. .

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You don't seem to get it.
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damn straight i'll by a tune i've been after for 2 years ... fuk man, i'm still chasing tunes i first heard 10 years ago and they weren't even fresh then ... when a track was released has no bearing on my liking for it or desire for a copy myself. .

What's so wrong about keeping tracks so only you have them?

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Because it's ultimately an incredibly selfish thing to do when you've got fans who are DJs who really want to play your stuff.

There's building hype to sell shit and then there's believing your hype so much that you think you don't need to.

Do you even play DnB? If so, you're the only person I've ever met (on the internet) who isn't at least slightly pissed off by the dub plate culture.
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Because it's ultimately an incredibly selfish thing to do when you've got fans who are DJs who really want to play your stuff.



Do you even play DnB? If so, you're the only person I've ever met (on the internet) who isn't at least slightly pissed off by the dub plate culture.



Selfish? Why do people assume they should have the right to be able to own and/or play every and any piece of music?! I don't think it's selfish to not give this to people.


My DnB collection builds slowly ... i dabble in many areas. Dubplate culture doesn't bug me at all. I take it as part and parcel of sound system and crew culture. Don't like it?! Make your own!


All i'm hearing from you guys is "wah wah wah ... i can't play XYZ track until 4 years after i heard it. So and So only gets gigs cos he has all the dubplates" ... i mean essential nothing but complaining because things aren't going your way.
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Cool man, cool. It's obviously just us being little brats.

I repeat: you don't seem to get it. But whatever.
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Yeab Funkdub since you play multi-genres it probably doesn't affect you that much, but anyway, if you want me to spell out (again) why I think dub culture is shit I can do that anyway even though i have a sneaking suspicion you are a massive *trollface*

- It keeps geezahs touring who are well past their prime
- It results in crapper LPs, sure if you are Noisia and dont ever want to release Block Control VIP thats fine, you made the track, keep it for yourself as a reason to come see you live, but dont think people will still care if you decide to release it a few years later when that sound has passed everyone by (Trace - Sonar VIP was huge, got pressed last month, i bagged it, but playing it just sounds too dated )
- Original dubplate culture was about testing out new tracks (back when people cut dubs) to see what worked on the dancefloor, then getting it released ASAP while it was still hot, the dubplate culture now is so far away from that its stupid
- Also lets not fuck around here, the only labels that keep things on dub for ages are poorly run throwbacks to the 90's
- Hospital is probably the best run label out there (business wise) and they get there shit out real quick, compared to RAM or Metalheadz which is really a gamble on what will be released and when,


ps. IANwil did Netsky really take out those awards ? gtfo , you know they gave him an essential mix also ? I havn't heard an artist who's music ages quicker than his tbF !
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I just want to say that I hate Netsky and everyone he brings to the genre

also, tony coleman is an old boy who should stop wearing hoodies and give it up,

and funkedub looks malnourished / addicted to meth


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I dunno, i'd probably be more worried about if i could lift up the newspaper in the morning if that ever happened tbh !
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ps. IANwil did Netsky really take out those awards ? gtfo , you know they gave him an essential mix also ? I havn't heard an artist who's music ages quicker than his tbF !

Yeah, he did. I honestly have zero idea why people rate him so much; other producers did what he does age ago and they did it BETTER.

That Jenna G track is an utter abortion. I used to love her. Fucking Netsky.
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