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The Vic Alps region is one of the best areas in Aust.

Hotham is my 2nd home. If I'm ever crazy enough to suggest that I may ride up it, I've gone mad and please shoot me.

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I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

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Hotham is only 30km, I'm planning to do that as one of my long training runs.

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I took the leap into the world of road biking on the weekend!



After riding BMX's and MTB's your whole life, this is going to take some getting used to...but man I love the power it's got!!! :zoooooom:
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The Vic Alps region is one of the best areas in Aust.

Hotham is my 2nd home. If I'm ever crazy enough to suggest that I may ride up it, I've gone mad and please shoot me.

You couldn't ride up Hotham. No way.

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Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.

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You couldn't ride up Hotham. No way.

You sir are correct!

Edit - profile on this link - http://theclimbingcyclist.com/climbs/alpine-national-park/mt-hotham/

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You couldn't ride up Hotham. No way.

I did

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I took the leap into the world of road biking on the weekend!

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Orbea make some nice bikes. Can usually get them a bit cheaper than the bigger brands as well. Nice one.

Big respect to you for riding Hotham dart. Great effort. How does it compare to other climbs you've done? Scenery, conditions etc
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You sir are correct!

Edit - profile on this link - http://theclimbingcyclist.com/climbs...ark/mt-hotham/

I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

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Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.

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Big respect to you for riding Hotham dart. Great effort. How does it compare to other climbs you've done? Scenery, conditions etc

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scenery: A+++

it felt like the Pyrenees, very similar to the port de bales climb I did a while back (which they use in the tour, the climb where andy schleck dropped his chain and yadda yadda yadda).

it's not as mountainous as the French alps so you don't get the feeling you're surrounded by so many other peaks as you do there, but as far as views go hotham was really great, as was the whole ride.

the ride from dinner plain to omeo had some great valley riding, infact the whole of the ride from the top of hotham onwards was really great, lots of great scenery and vistas.

except the climb up to trapyard gate, that's 9kms where all you see is your front tyre.

toughness of hotham:

it's as tough as ventoux, tourmalet, galibier but really it all depends on how hard you tackle it, if you wanted to push yourself and set a really good time, you could absolutely ruin yourself on this climb.

saw a few people that had fallen off with cramp and one dude wrapped in a space blanket half-way up CRB hill. his day was over.

but if you just cruise it (and have done some prep), there are a few bits that put you into difficulty, CRB hill, the Meg, but the rest is really quite do-able and pleasant.
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I will run/walk/crawl that in under 7 hours no later than 31DEC14.

Your move, Tobi.

You should run up Bungalow spur, not the road silly.
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Check this climb in the last km of Tirreno-Adriatico stage 5:
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After 190km of riding, mind you. Kicks up to 30% gradient at it's max!

Edit: starts at 2.25

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Orbea make some nice bikes. Can usually get them a bit cheaper than the bigger brands as well. Nice one.

Guy in store said they're great, huge in Europe, just not so much here...was $1400 down from original $2K so I'm pretty happy.

Felt more comforable than the Focus around the same price point...shorter in the top bar so felt a bit more upright, which I liked...no lycra yet though
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Cadel looking good at the Giro. Is in a very good position for GC. Mathews is looking awesome as well.
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absolutely awful crash last night. never nice seeing guys going into railings at ~40km/hr
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Oldish thread, but my wife and I picked up our new bikes over the weekend.

Mine - Specialized Crave Pro 29


Her's - Specialized Jett Comp 29

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How are the forks on the Crave?
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Yeah great for me. Have done a couple of tracks around here in the Shoalhaven like Superbowl and Cabbage Tree. Went well and no complaints.

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I'm sure pricks drop in here and ask the same questions as I'm about to ask, but for the sake of conversation:
Looking to buy a bike for ~$200. Are the fixie kits all over Ebay garbage, or decent value? Had a look through a buyer guide type articles, but none offered too much insight other than 'Brand A is good'.
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generally speaking garbage unless you're just wanting to ride around the corner to your local coffee shop and hipster out with everyone else. What's your intention with said bike? The frames won't take a lot of punishment.

also, buy a single speed, not a fixed gear if you value your knees...
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I'm sure pricks drop in here and ask the same questions as I'm about to ask, but for the sake of conversation:
Looking to buy a bike for ~$200. Are the fixie kits all over Ebay garbage, or decent value? Had a look through a buyer guide type articles, but none offered too much insight other than 'Brand A is good'.

Absolute rubbish. Would not touch. Best bet is finding something 2nd hand on Gumtree or stretching the budget to $300ish

Few SE's here. Will be much stronger than dodgy no name ebay bikes.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/s/fix...?max-price=400
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I'm sure pricks drop in here and ask the same questions as I'm about to ask, but for the sake of conversation:
Looking to buy a bike for ~$200. Are the fixie kits all over Ebay garbage, or decent value? Had a look through a buyer guide type articles, but none offered too much insight other than 'Brand A is good'.

I'm gonna ask, why a fixie?
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I'm gonna ask, why a fixie?

It was either that or a raft.
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Thanks for replies all, sounds like second hand single speed would be the best choice. Any brands to look into/away from? Not going to take it out into the velodrome, just use it for riding between home/shops, A/B, etc. Maybe some decent rides to get the ol' fitness up, but not the main reason I'm buying one. And was looking into the fixie kits because they're so cheap, wanted to find out if they were cheap/nasty or just cheap.

Ugh, everything is listed as 'single speed fixed gear', I thought there was as difference? Does that mean it has a flip-flop hub? Is that even a real thing?
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Email and ask. I always was of the impression that most of the cheap ass 'fixies' were actually single speed bikes.

You'd be better off spending a bit more and get a 2nd hand courier bike.
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Is that specific model? Or just a decent beat up second hand bike?
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It's a specific style of bike. Lots of couriers ride single speed steel framed bikes because they're reliable and strong. I don't think you will find one for under $200 because a lot of the time they're customised with higher quality parts. You could get a decent single speed for under $400 though. If you aim to get a decent frame you could upgrade other components if you end up riding more than you originally planned.

Most "fixies" have flip flop hubs. It's just a blanket term for that style of bike these days.

I know its more than you want to spend but if you're in Melbourne, Fuji Declaration's are good for the price this place @ Fitzroy are asking. Upgrade the pedals and you'll be sorted.

http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/fix...tion/102135445
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Awesome, thanks for that. I did some reading based off posts above. Looks like Fuji Track seemed like the best bang for buck. Might hold off until I can afford $400 instead of $200, seems like most $200 have a halfway decent frame with shit components. Probably prefer to just buy a halfway decent everything.
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Awesome, thanks for that. I did some reading based off posts above. Looks like Fuji Track seemed like the best bang for buck. Might hold off until I can afford $400 instead of $200, seems like most $200 have a halfway decent frame with shit components. Probably prefer to just buy a halfway decent everything.

Yeah Fuji's are pretty good. Got a single speed Avanti a while back.... similar spec to the Fuji offerings. Has been thrashed. Replaced the pedals, seat and bar tape and left everything else. Is a quality bike.

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Decided to get cheap single speed to cruise around on in the meantime before I get around to building one.

Budget of $500 max. Can get heaps of rubbish for under $500 but surprisingly not too many half decent options.

Narrowed it down to a choice between an SE Lager, Avanti Solo or a Fuji Declaration. Weight, build quality/finish and quality of components is pretty much the same with the Solo and the Fuji but I preferred the Solo's ride over the Fuji so ended up getting one.

Also, it saves me having to change the Fuji's bars to Bullhorns which I would have done anyways because bullhorns are fucking awesome. Going to eventually upgrade a couple of parts but will pretty much leave it stock otherwise.



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^ Ah cool, that helps, thanks. I saw the Lager pop up a lot, but heaps of people were bashing all the components and apparently it was pretty heavy for what it was.

So for example, what are the downsides of a bike like this? http://www.singlespeedcycles.com.au/...e-white-nomad/

It's so heavily marked down that at first glance it seems like a deal. But what should I be looking for in the specs?
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^^ the issue with those ones is that they all popped up about 4 years ago when fixies became cool. they've got no reputation, they aren't a cycle company they're a bandwagon dealer riding the back of a popularity wave.

basically it's impossible to know what the quality will be like from the specs. you could probably buy 10 (of the no-name) bikes, put them through their paces with 10 heavy riders and 6 may fail, 4 may last a while.... but you've got no idea. with a company like Fiji, they've made bikes for a long time and they have the reputation.

with everything that moves, the crank and bearings may be a POS, they may be OK, but you won't know until it arrives. With Fiji you have a fair idea of what quality you're going to get, if you don't, a bike store will.

also they say fixie too much their about us page. Also they have no information on their frame quality, component quality....

re fuji: I haven't kept up to date in the last few years, but Fuji used to have great bikes from the base model up. you can do a lot worse than buying one of them.

second hand units are obviously better value but you can sit for ages while one appears that suits your needs.
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No name brands like that generally offer very cheap and low quality components. They are built for less than $100 each and not with longevity in mind. The companies offer warranties that are just straight up bullshit. If you have any problems with a known brand product you buy from a legit bike shop, they will want to fix the issue. It's not in their best interests to release poor quality products when the market is flooded with so many great bikes. No name brands don't have to worry about that kind of thing because their target market is n00bs that don't know any better.

As far as specs go, they don't really offer specs. Established brands like Fuji, Trek, Giant, Avanti etc don't just use no name components. They use one brand that specialises in wheels, another brand for the brakes, another brand for tyres, they actually specify the type of Frame material etc

Here is the specs list for my Avanti:

Frame: ADT 4130 Cr-Mo
Fork: Cr-Mo with 1-1/8" Steerer
Brake Levers: Tektro XL-750 Alloy
Crankset: Lasco Alloy with 46T 130pcd Chainring
Brakes: Tektro R310 Alloy Dual Pivot with Cartridge Brake Pads
Hubs: Joytech Alloy Track Nutted
Cassette: 16T Sprocket & 16T Freewheel Reversible
Handlebar: Alloy Bull Horn 25.4mm
Grips: Zero gum wrap
Handlebar Stem: Alloy Ahead 25.4mm
Pedals: Nylon Platform with Velcro Straps
Rims/Wheel Set: Weinmann DP-18 32H
Spokes: DT Swiss Stainless Steel
Tyres: Kenda Karvs 700 x 25c
Saddle: Zero Solo
Seat Post: Alloy Micro Adjust 27.2mm
Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN26
Headset: Alloy Aheadset 1-1/8"
Chain: KMC Z-510HX
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Awesome, thanks heap for the info. Been reading thread/articles/whatever all week, but it's hard to make sense of the information. The bikes mentioned in your quoted post, DFD, I saw pop up all over the place. So I'll keep an eye out for a decent price on them.
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I could sell you a mojo fixie that I won in some kind of competition a while back

Thought an old mans cruiser (big wheel) BMX would be more your thing though trase, coming from being a skater.
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Thought an old mans cruiser (big wheel) BMX would be more your thing though trase, coming from being a skater.

Bombtrack Divide! Better for commuting than a big mans BMX but can still be thrown around a lot. Want.

http://www.wiggle.com.au/bombtrack-dash-26-2014-1/


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You work in IT anyway Trase. Cycling is the new golf (although golf is making a comeback) just get a carbon fibre road bike and develop and interest in the tour.
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Yep got a trek 4.7 gathering dust in the garage, buys me heaps of cred. Hopefully no one suggests going for a ride as it doesn't even have proper pedals
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Bombtrack Divide! Better for commuting than a big mans BMX but can still be thrown around a lot. Want.

http://www.wiggle.com.au/bombtrack-dash-26-2014-1/


Not a fan of hills I take it? That is one tiny chainring
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You work in IT anyway Trase. Cycling is the new golf (although golf is making a comeback) just get a carbon fibre road bike and develop and interest in the tour.

Oh god would rather kill myself. If I ever wear lycra, just gun me down. No offense to any lycra wearers in the thread, just ain't my bag.
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Yep got a trek 4.7 gathering dust in the garage, buys me heaps of cred. Hopefully no one suggests going for a ride as it doesn't even have proper pedals

don't be taking that shit outside without at least 105 or Look pedals. The shame you'll bring on yourself....
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Bombtrack Divide! Better for commuting than a big mans BMX but can still be thrown around a lot. Want.

http://www.wiggle.com.au/bombtrack-dash-26-2014-1/


I guess the Specialized P.Fix is along those lines too, but fatter tyrs.. Not a bad price @ $549 either



http://www.bikeexchange.com.au/a/fix...-fix/102494312


Might trade in my P.24 for something a little less back-achey once spring rolls around




edit: btw you posted the link to the bombtrack dash, not the divide in the pic you posted.. I think the divide is a little more commuter oriented, and doesn't have a flip flop hub.. not a fan of fixed gear only myself either, too stuck in my old bmx ways.. The dash on the other hand looks more like a direct competitor to the P.Fix, slightly more bmx-ey..

The P.Fix definitely has the flip flop hub, the dash I'm not sure about though?
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Yeah the Divide is a better commuter for sure. Can't hack fixed gear either.... no trouble swapping a few components to make it a single speed though! Dash is also sold fixed.
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That's a nice treat.
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Ey Rudi, I tried to PM you but it keeps failing. What's the go with the Mojo? They any good? Did you win an already built bike or the chance to build one?
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They any good?

Nah they are rubbish... and I don't feel bad for potentially losing Dr Rudi an easy sale because he won't have any trouble selling it to another n00b on gumtree that hasn't bothered doing a bit of research like you have.
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Righto, appreciate that. How about a Fuji Absolute 4.0? From what I've read, they're a great commuter bike, but is 4 the newest or oldest? I assumed newest, but Fuji only has 1 and 2 on their site.
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