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Mixers past, present and future
OK, so I saw on another forum that they had a thread dedicated to the users mixers that they have used, starting from their first mixer, going through to their current mixer. They then gave a short review of each one, like pro's and con's of each. Thought it would be cool to start one here, but also ask that people also post pics and links of the mixers, so we aren't trawling through google to find out what mixer you are talking about. Also, thought it would be cool if at the bottom of your post we could add what our next mixer or out dream mixer would be. Have fun!
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Numark DM2000X



PROS
*Price.
*Kills on each band.

CONS
*Shit meter system.
*Assignability of the X fader.
*EQ responsiveness.


DJM300



PRO'S
*Build and quality for the price.
*EQ resposiveness.
*Better metering.
*Great size to the pots.

CON'S
*Permanetly assigned crossfader.

DJM600



PROS
*Good EQ's.
*Great size to the pots.
*Effects such as echo, delay and the sampler.
*Assignable crossfader. Not as good as a matrix system but still pretty good.
*Accurate metering over EVERY channel. Still something I think a lot of current mixer lack.
*Good cueing system as you can listen to multiple channels as mix in the master as well.

CONS
*Effects get real old real quick.
*Having the sampler hooked up to the BPM instead of the setting manually make it difficult to make seemless loops
*Echo - if you echo a track then fade it out, the echo also fades out. It would be nice if that maintain even after the track was faded out. This issue has been adressed in the newer DJM's.
*Sound quality - It sounded great in my bedroom, but when hooked up to a decent PA is sounded terrible! I used to think it was the speakers when I first got it, not so!
*Gain and meters - Too much room to overload the signal.


Vestax PCV175



PROS
*Price! I picked it up for $200 brand new!
*Build and quality. Very sturdy.
*A nice physical feel to the pots. Much better than the plasticy feel of the Pioneers.
*Nice feel to the faders.
*Resposive.
*Pan on each channel!
*4 mic inputs! Crazy! I don't use a mic, but have rarely seen a mixer in the range with so many mic inputs.

CONS
*Some sound issues. Not the best sound.
*Permanately assigned crossfader.
*A large dip in the middle of the crossfader.
*No metering system! An overload light on each channel to tell you when it's too loud and a meter for the master out. It's almost impossible to pre set the levels as you have to have to fader up for the over load light to work, so the overload light is post fader, which is just stupid!
*Cueing is pre EQ so you can't hear changes in EQ when metering.
*Too much headroom on the master out to clip. I have it set at about 10 o'clock and that's at it's max, just before clipping.
*No way to mix in the master in when cueing.
*The kill switches are un usable as they make a loud sound when activating and deactivating.

NEXT MIXER

Rane Empath Rotary




DREAM MIXER

Allen and Heath XONE V6





I would love an iscolator as well, to rip the shit out like Joe Claussell but they are so expensive!
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Numark DXM06

Pros:
Kills
Layout
Effects are good
Price - Very cheap for what its offering
Awesome entry level mixer for new kids on the block
x-fader reverse

Cons:
Didn't like the east-west eq's

Numark 5000fx

Pro's:
Price
Layout
Some effects
Assignable x-fader or not have it on at all
Cueing system
Sampler is good
X-fader curve adjust
Seperate Master, Booth and Zone volume controls (i.e. 3 out puts with seperate volume controls)
Dual headphone imputs (1 x 1/4" jack, 1 x 3.5mm jack - but work at same time)

Cons:
Most effects suck and sound like shit
No send/recieve

Next mixer:
DJM800

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Korg Zero4
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Gamblore with the DJM-300 you said the Con was that it had a permanently assigned cross-fader.. this is wrong you can flick the switch that says CH. and Cross to CH. and the cross fader does nothing then..
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old mixer:




behrinnger dx100 or something like that
pros:
- price
cons:
- absolute POS, developed major bleed on the faders
- no eq on each channel
- general behrinnger shitness


current mixer:



Rane empath:
pros:
- sound quality
- excellent cueing and effects loops
- nice faders
- lots of outputs
- bulid quailty
cons:
- price
- no led meters on each channel

Future:
dunno really, the empath meets all my needs currently, maybe in the future if i need more channels or video i might get something else new
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past: omnitronic PM524
pro: features
con: faders died


past: numark DXM06
pro: value
con: -


present: Korg KM202
pro: kaoss pad, quality
con: lacking features


future: Korg Zero4
pro: all in one, quality
con: price
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Gamblore with the DJM-300 you said the Con was that it had a permanently assigned cross-fader.. this is wrong you can flick the switch that says CH. and Cross to CH. and the cross fader does nothing then..

Ahh sweet, thanks for that bro! It's been a long time since I've played it, I did like it though. Sorry!
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First:

Numark DM1002X
- Not bad for the price
- Adjustable CF
- Faders rough as guts and died frequent



Second:

Stanton SK2
- Sounded OK
- Smooth + Adjustable Faders
- XLR Outputs (from memory)
- Optical Fader Option


**SK2F... couldn't find the SK2

Current:

Pioneer DJM300
- Nice build quality
- No PFL Cue option



Next:

Pioneer DJM800 (probably)



Dream:





**wouldn't mind a V6 with it's bits have no real use for rotaries... and haven't mixed on one...

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Ahh sweet, thanks for that bro! It's been a long time since I've played it, I did like it though. Sorry!

Haha no need to be sorry! just letting you know
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- No PFL Cue option

Umm just wondering on the meters on the DJM-300 with the level meters when you hit the button that says input levels and the meters change from the master output to the input levels.. is that PFL or not?
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Umm just wondering on the meters on the DJM-300 with the level meters when you hit the button that says input levels and the meters change from the master output to the input levels.. is that PFL or not?

not sure what I meant at the time but I think it was the option to blend/balance PFL and CUE at the same time in the headphones

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Yeh you hit the button underneath the meters and when the red light comes on that means that the level is the input level which you can change while you got the channel cued..

If thats the same thing?
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Yeh you hit the button underneath the meters and when the red light comes on that means that the level is the input level which you can change while you got the channel cued..

If thats the same thing?

No no,.. what I mean is there's no knob to control the balance of master/cue in the headphones

it's either master, Ch 1 and/or 2, or split cue

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^^ Hmm I'm confused lol.

Do you mean you in the headphones you can't change the level of the master volume if you have the Master and say CH2 cued and CH2 is louder then the master volume in the headphone?
If that makes sense?
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^^ Hmm I'm confused lol.

Do you mean you in the headphones you can't change the level of the master volume if you have the Master and say CH2 cued and CH2 is louder then the master volume in the headphone?
If that makes sense?

No... I mean you can't have the Master and channel 1 and/or 2 in your cans at the same time without it being split...

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sorry but dont know how to put the piks up

my first mixer was a stanton sa3
pro's: price
adjustable curves on all faders
cons: sound quality eq's were shit and faders didnt last very long

djm-707
pro's: solid build
xfader was solid as
adjustable curves
cons: sound quality was average
not very good resale value

mackie d.2
pro's: solid as anything
sound quality is amazing
faders are awesome.
cons: price!!

finally my dream mixer and the mixer i got now. so basically its not a dream anymore

xone 92.

well i dont have to say anything about it as you should all know
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my first mixer was this shitbox called next
pro's-cheap 4 channel mixer
cons-shit itself after 4 months of using it

second one i bought was djm-500
pros-at that time the only mixer with effects apart from a roland thingy, and back when i was young thats all i wanted
cons, fucking clipping
http://www.parkaveelectronics.com/pr...M500&l=Froogle

after i sold that one cause i urgently needed money i was without one for 5 months, then i saved and bought myself a pmc 46, love that mixer to death,
pros, awesome sound, built like a tank, lasted me 6 years before it started bleeding
cons, maybe alittle to cramped and efx loop is tricky to use

http://www.permutalivre.com.br/produto/?prod_cd_produto=23898&estado=s%C3%A3o+paulo&usado s=mixer+vestax+pmc+46+-+house+edition+-+r$+700


got a 92 couple of years ago and i love it
pros, too much to list
cons,a little bit cramped in teh eq section

currently saving up for a v6

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1 - budget American DJ scratch mixer - cheap but pos
(can't find a picture of anything it remotely looks like, but it was 1999 and who cares anyway)

2 - Gemini BPM-250 3 channel - pretty good, used for years, no cons really


3 - Stanton SA-3 scratch mixer - fader was shit. Took a million years to order in a replacement AC plug after i lost the original. Otherwise average but had good features for a cheap scratch mixer like hamster switch and adjustable curve.


4 - Pioneer DJM-500. Got it for free and doing the job fine for what i need at home.


Future - don't really need one but a Xone 92 would be nice





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First mixer:
Behringer DJX400

Pros:
Cheap
Cons:
Shit sound
Bland poor quality EQ's
Faders begin to bleed easily and after moderate usage

Second Mixer
Numark DM1002X

Pro's:
Cheap (bought it from an ITMer 2nd hand for $40 in great condition)
Solid sound output for a basic 2ch mixer
Kill Switches for all EQ's
Horizontal EQ's (Left to right - Bass/Mid/Trebble) I find it much more comfortable than Veritcal like most mixers
Solid feel to the eq's and faders
Cons:
The only con's i can really come up with are a lack of FX and only 2 chs which arent necessarily con's being that the mixer wasnt designed to be a 3ch / fx mixer (particularly not for the price.

Current Mixer
Numark DXM06

Pros:
Great Sound
Great FX Range
Horizontal EQ's
Responsive EQ's & Faders
Work Horse (i've had this mixer for around 3yrs now and i've yet to have a single issue and its seen its fare share of house parties and thrashings and has yet to miss a beat)

Cons:
Eq's & Faders have a very plastic feel to them


As for future mixer, i really have no idea. This mixer has been perfect for my needs and for home use i can't really think of any other mixer that would be more suitable.

As far as mixers that i'd love to actually use, i'd love to use one of the Rane MP2016+2016a's (IE the mixer @ Tank and most the house clubs in the states seem to use and seems to be a mixer of choice for a lot of deep/US house DJ's)
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Own a PMC - 250. Great sound.



Would only ever be interested in upgrading to a Vestax CX

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The more I look at that CX, the more I like it. Looks real fun with the filters and iscolators but man it is expensive!
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first mixer:
Vestax PMC 03A



PROS
looking back i'm not sure it had many pro's apart from teh build quality and price

Cons
expensive for what it was
only had a 2 band eq

second mixer:
Vestax PCV 275



pros
kill switches on two of the channels
solid build quality
2 headphone outputs
pre and post send/return for effects
good layout

cons
no booth volume control
crossfader not assignable
eqs weren't all that wide in their frequency range

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Vestax PMC CX with rotaries




pros
filters on each channel - low, high and sweep
full cut isolators on each channel
master isolator
mid and low antiphase
3 band booth eq
2 band headphone eq
adjustable cross fader
awesome build qaulity - made in japan
huge knobs
matrix input assign

cons
expensive (but i think well worth it)
only 3 channels (but has the matrix input assign which has 4 channels per se)
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Numark DM2000X



PROS
*Price.
*Kills on each band.

CONS
*Shit meter system.
*Assignability of the X fader.
*EQ responsiveness.

that's the beast i have now ... needs reaplacing badly!!!!





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Vestax PCV175



ahhh... i <3 these mixer ... i had a PMC17A (has kill switched either side of the X-fader instead of next to the EQ) ... alas it went a bit funny on the pans and faders

i love the simple layout of these things

i wish they still made them ... but their new line doesn't quite have anything quite the same


as for what's next ... hrrrmmmmz

still working on that
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Would only ever be interested in upgrading to a Vestax CX

Come on, you know you want to!
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i wish they still made them ... but their new line doesn't quite have anything quite the same

I'll sell you mine if you want? I'm not the biggest fan. The PCV275 is pretty much exaclty the same though.
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^^^my mate has one of those, he changed it to a rotary face plate, the only thing i didnt like about it was non assignable fader and those kill switches make a clicking noise when you use them.
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First, current, and probably future mixer:
Vestax PMC 280


Pros:
Nice neat layout, so as not to confuse a noob like me too much
Metering on each channel (be it only 5 LEDs, it gives a rough idea)
Something crazy about effects etc... All i know is hi pass works :blush: lol
Can set up crossfader as u please (those little switches just before the low eq)
EQs are pretty good at cutting out the range of sound they meant to (insulated or something i think)
Looks much sexier than it's orange/white bastard cousins
Is fairly skinny (i think)

Cons:
Was not cheap specially for a first mixer
Does not have 'rec out' on the back, which im told is kinda a necessity if u wanna record ur vinyl etc.
Channel 4 seems to always be louder than channel 1... trim stays at 0 on 4 almost always
The tap button has a blue LED in it that flashes n annoys me... can be turned off depending on what effect you have selected
No Pan... at all... only chance is using the auto pan effect which u can't control very well


Can't say about how good the sound quality is.. haven't been able to crank it yet, nor take it to some big speakers
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Does not have 'rec out' on the back, which im told is kinda a necessity if u wanna record ur vinyl etc.

not necessary, just plug your pc in to the master 2 out
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That was my plan, but was advised it'll distort to hell
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turn the master 2 volume down until you reach required level
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^^^my mate has one of those, he changed it to a rotary face plate, the only thing i didnt like about it was non assignable fader and those kill switches make a clicking noise when you use them.

Yeah I was considering the rotary option, but there are other things that annoy me on this mixer too like the poor cueing system, no meters and the whole crossfader thing.
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That was my plan, but was advised it'll distort to hell

try it you'll be surprised
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Yeah I was considering the rotary option, but there are other things that annoy me on this mixer too like the poor cueing system, no meters and the whole crossfader thing.

the rotary option is v. expensive to get on teh pcv 275

not only do you need to buy the rotary pots, but you also have to get a new faceplate
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record outs are handy in the matter of being able to turn the master volume up and down as you're mixing (like when housemates pop their head in ... or the phone rings ... or you just want to farken well crank a tune) without affecting the volume of the recorded mix
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ahhh. thanks for clearing that up guys
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This is my first mixer, m202

pro's:
Easy to use
basic
good quality sound for the price

cons:
flimsy everything
looks and feels plastic
so basic



and current dxm09
Pro's:
Lots of features
feels pretty good
awesome price
fun effects
three chans
actually worth the money
fairly invincible. its taken some good floggings.

cons:
No send/returns

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the rotary option is v. expensive to get on teh pcv 275

not only do you need to buy the rotary pots, but you also have to get a new faceplate

my mate got his rotary faceplate for like 70 bucks from some melbourne store where it was just sitting there for ever and they were happy to get rid of it in a hurry, he bought the mixer from some chick from north shore who never laid a finger on it for 250 bucks plus 70 bucks for a rotary option, thats pretty cheap if you ask me.
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^ i was talking about new gear

but that is an awesome price - well done to your friend
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Got mine from the shop a couple of months ago for for $200 brand new! Would love to find a rotary mod sitting around a shop for cheap somewhere, if anyones sees one give me the heads up!
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First mixer:

Cant remember - some shitty 2 channel thing, was terrible.


2nd Mixer:

US Audio 2 channel - again, shitty


Current Mixer:

DJM800 - pure bliss. Wouldn't swap it for anything at the moment. A lot of the other supposed 'better' mixers have really crap cluttered layouts, not friendly for the boozing dj.
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Heres a business perspective on Mixers I have owned.

First.

Vestax PCV-275


I cant remember much about this mixer to be honest, but.......

Pros
Well built
Sounded OK
Dj's were happy with it

Cons
No booth control
Djs would redline it constantly because of bad metering.

Second:
DJM-600



It lasted 1 day, sounded like crap and sent it back......................

Third
Vestax PMC-37



Pros
Great sound
Well built
Matrix

Cons
Dj Complained to much about:
Slider EQ's
Only 3 channels
EQ nobs always flying off into the crowd (many a night at the front with torch looking for the fuckers
Channels would cut out on occasion, never found out why.

Current Mixers:

Rane Empath



Pros
One of the best in sound
Excellent Faders, only mixer with all the Faders being P&G
Very well built

Cons
Only 3 Channels
P&G Faders have a habbit of snapping off.
Gain Control button is useless.
DJ have complained that cueing can be trickey(getting levels right)

Rane TTM-56





Pro's

Everthing about this mixer is perfect, except.....

Cons
Its easily clipped.




DJM-800 x2

Pro's
DJ Friendly
Good sound
Well built
Good money maker (hires)

Cons

Only 3 Phono imputs
Piss weak ground point screws


I would like to own

DJM-1000



With all the live acts these days wanting to plug into the DJ console, the extra channels would be a treat.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plan-b

Currently Have ^^^

Pros
Hella Cheap ($40!)
easy to use
has Vestax PCV fader conversion

Cons
Faders died hella quick

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right then ... finally found something to replace my shitty Numark ... a less shitty Numark

found this lurking in a cash converters and know it well because a friend has one ... had a bit of a play on it and everything seems to be ok apart from some superficial scuffs

much prefer the layout on this Numark to the dxm series

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talking of cheap:
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brand spanking new from the storedj sale today

$950 how could I resist
still gotta try it out with ableton and the kp3
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that's fucking awesome.... thinking about doing the same instead of my djm800 now

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any1 see this

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I know A&H are muched loved, but WTF is with the headphone jack on that one..... could they have put it in a worse spot.
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any1 see this

It's designed as a mobile DJ's mixer. Don't really understand mobile DJ's mixers, don't see why mobile DJ's don't use normal mixers. I agree about the headphone jack placement, stupid!
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Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblore

It's designed as a mobile DJ's mixer. Don't really understand mobile DJ's mixers, don't see why mobile DJ's don't use normal mixers.

I dare say it's to fit a 19" rack at the top, along with a 19" wide CD controller, with the CD drives and amplifiers mounted in the front of the 19" rack. This is instead of a table mounted CD - MIXER - CD rig.

But let's not kid ourselves, all a 'mobile DJ' really needs is:

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