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Originally Posted by ManipulatingMusic

Im going camping in about 2 weeks or so and i need some tech to keep me awake
I have download a shitload of sets thinking they were going to be techno and they turned out to be boring minimal stuff.
I want some groovy stuff but at the same time be mind melting
I loved Dj Bones set at awakenings detroit though, so much so that i have listened to it about 10 times now
I cant listen to it before sleeptime or ill just want to jump out of my bed and dance

Any help would be appreciated

I want some real hard tech

e-mail me at nuid@subjectdetroit.com and I'll give you links to all the DJ Bone Attack Mixes (there's close to 50 different mixes)

this is one of richie's best sets

richie hawtin @ maida vale - peel sessions 2004.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TD7UJMN4

that maide vale set is fucking sick

great thanks chris "dealer of mixsets"

i just realized that i have slowly removed all the techno from my cd collection / mp3 cat
the closest thing i have is a monolake , dettman and dan bell set
weird

have to stock up again and get back into the 'ard stuff

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Originally Posted by jdoodle

ADAM BEyer essential mix from about 2002 is in the sort you mention and is considered the best ever over on livesets I think, its pretty freaking banging
http://www.mixesdb.com/db/index.php/..._Essential_Mix

best essential mix ever

i couldnt get into umek's essential mix, too brash for my liking

Fuck me that Vath set looks the ducks nuts!!!

I've always liked the Misstress Barbara Essential Mix from around 2001 i think. Funky banging tekkerz.

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Originally Posted by Lukey

great thanks chris "dealer of mixsets"

i just realized that i have slowly removed all the techno from my cd collection / mp3 cat
the closest thing i have is a monolake , dettman and dan bell set
weird

well monolake, dettmann and bell arent a bad place to start... this got me thinking, if i get around to it, i might put together a list of my favourite livesets from this year...

sven vath and cari lekebusch - omen closing party 1998.

that omen party would have been something else!!

001 HEIM Elektronik vs Jackson Four - Cruisin [Dodge - 011]
002 Sense - Volume 3 [Sense - SES 004]
003 Forever Sweet - Kämpfer Und Tänzer [Ladomat - 2071]
004 The Wise - Caucasian Celestian Empire (Hay Fever Mix) [Mosaic - 014]
005 Stephan Grieder & The Persuader - Naked Woman [Svek - 027]
006 E-Dancer - Velocity Funk [KMS - 061]
007 Luke Slater - Class Action [Novamute - 12 NOMU 062]
008 Hardfloor ft. Phuture 303 - Hardfloor Will Survive [Harthouse - HH 01]
009 A2L - Tripman Remix [Force Inc Music - FIM 152]
010 Savas Pascalidis - Discotheque [Kurbel - 10]
011 Thomas P Heckmann - Welt In Scherben I [Force Inc Music - FIM 153]
012 Percy X - New Ground [Soma - 063]
013 ID
014 Dreg - Up That Hill [100% Pure - 023]
015 Laurent Garnier - Coloured City [F-Communications - F 086]
016 Paul Brtschitsch - Helikopter [Taksi - 4]
017 ID
018 Marco Carola - Question 2 [Question - QUEST 002]
019 Chris Liebing - Audio 07 (Andrew Richley Remix) [Fine Audio - AUDIO 07 R]
020 Adam Beyer - Code Red 8 [Code Red - CR 08]
021 Adam Beyer - Remainings II [Code Red - CR 07]
022 Marco Carola - Question 1 [Question - QUEST 001]
023 Adam Beyer - Code Red 8 [Code Red - CR 08]
024 Adam Beyer - Remainings II [Code Red - CR 07]
025 Jeff Mills - Steampit EP [Purpose Maker - PM 005]
026 ID
027 ID
028 Adam Beyer & Marco Carola - Drumcode 16 (B1) [Drumcode - 16]
029 DJ Shufflemaster & Cari Lekebusch - Extended Playtime [Subvoice - SUBV 16]
030 Cari Lekebusch & Alexi Delano - Color Clash 2 (B1) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1206]
031 Cari Lekebusch - Hybrid/Drumcode 15 (AA2) [Hybrid Drumcode - HP DC 15]
032 Cari Lekebusch - Ej Till Försäljning (B2) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1202]
033 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fokus Reworks (B1) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 003]
034 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fokus Reworks (C1) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 003]
035 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fokus Reworks (A2) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 003]
036 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fokus Reworks (D1) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 003]
037 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fokus Reworks (B1) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 003]
038 Adam Beyer - Character (A2) [Drumcode - DC 17]
039 Adam Beyer - Drumcode 15 (A1) [Drumcode - DC 15]
040 ID
041 DJ Shufflemaster - Looking For The Jerks [Housedust - HD 4]
042 Ben Long - Potential 003 [Potential - POT 003]
043 Gaetano Parisio - Advanced Techno Research 1 (A) [Art - 1/10]
044 Marco Carola - Fokus (A1) [Zenit - 01]
045 C & G South System - Dual (A1) [Conform - CNFR 03]
046 Marco Carola - Ante Zenit 2 (A1) [Ante Zenit - ANTE 002]
047 Cari Lekebusch & Alexi Delano - Color Clash 2 (A1) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1206]
048 Cari Lekebusch - Br?kstake [Drumcode - DC 04]
049 Cari Lekebusch - Acknowledgements (A1) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1208]
050 Joel Mull & Cari Lekebusch - Food For Thoughts (B2) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1207]
051 Steve Bicknell - When Things Of The Spirit Come First (B1) [Cosmic - COS 016]
052 ID
053 The Advent - P.tek [Kombination Research - KR 006]
054 The Advent - Warhead [Tortured - PAIN 012]
055 The Advent - Panther [Kombination Research - KR 005]
056 ID
057 C & G South System - Dual (B1) [Conform - CNFR 03]
058 Brothers Yard - Unknown [Planet Vision - PV X]
059 Adam Beyer - Character (A1) [Drumcode - DC 17]
060 Morgan - Flowerchild (Adam Beyer Remix 2) [Synewave - SW 036]
061 Hi-Tech Child - Tribal Storm (Adam Beyer Remix 1) [Tronic - TR 005]
062 Adam Beyer - Remainings II (B1) [Code Red - CR 07]
063 ID
064 ID
065 ID
066 Joel Mull & Cari Lekebusch - Food For Thoughts (A1) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1207]
067 Cari Lekebusch - Running Steady [Hybrid Productions - HP 1204]
068 Cari Lekebusch & Alexi Delano - Color Clash 2 (A1) [Hybrid Productions - HP 1206]
069 Cari Lekebusch - Attitydsknäckaren [Hybrid Productions - HP 1225]
070 Cari Lekebusch & Thomas Krome Mot Den Osynliga Handen - Eru M?no Ellä? [Hybrid Productions - HP 1201]
071 Chris Liebing - Drumcook EP [Fine Audio - AUDIO 11]
072 Morgan - Flowerchild (Adam Beyer Remix 1) [Synewave - SW 036]
073 Marco Carola - Fokus (A1) [Zenit - 01]
074 ID
075 ID
076 ID
077 ID
078 The Complex - Black & White [Black & White - BW 002]
079 Marchetto & Scheurer - Fuzzy Beats [Nova Zembla - NZ 103]
080 Anorak - 150 [Absence - ABLP 02]
081 Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Drumcode 16 [Drumcode - DC 16]
082 Thomas P Heckmann - Welt In Scherben 2 [Force Inc Music - FIM 153]
083 ID
084 Murat - The Second [Method - 003]
085 Evil C & The Hustler - Superbox [Paparazzi - 01]
086 Johannes Heil - Die Eigene Achse [JH - 01]
087 Johannes Heil - Paranoid Dancer [Kanzleramt - KA 024]
088 Sutekh - Dirty Needles [Dropbeat - SPL 07]
089 ID
090 ID
091 Alexi Delano & Cari Lekebusch - Color Clash 2 EP [Hybrid Productions - HP 1206]
092 Puente Latino - One Hit For [Primevil - PRVL 07]
093 Vainqueur - Lyot [Maurizio - M 1]
094 ID
095 ID
096 Underground Resistance - The Final Frontier [Underground Resistance - UR 003]
097 ID
098 Hardfloor - Hardtrance Axcperience [Harthouse - HH 008]
099 Sun Electric - EYA [Apollo 31]
100 ID
101 ID
102 DOM - Fackeln Im Sturm [Harvest - P 519 964]
103 Ricardo Villalobos - Heike [Lo-Fi - 05]
104 Mr. James Barth - Stealin Music [Svek - LP 01]
105 Neil Landstrumm - Scandinavia Sessions [Tresor - 081]
106 Neil Landstrumm - Bedroom & Cities [Tresor - 082]
107 SRI - Songs To Remember [Auftrieb - AUF 06]
108 Phytys - Trak [Basic Channel - BC 02]
109 Bandulu - New Foundation [Foundation - 05]
110 Isolee - Beao Mot Plage [Playhouse - PLAY 22]
111 JS-01 - JS-01 [JS - 01]
112 Barbarella - My Name Is Barbarella [Harthouse - HH 001]
113 Love & Rockets - Resurrection [Hex Red Ant - 14]
114 DJ HMC - Universal Experience [Primary - 01]
115 Morgan Geist - Oushed (Mark Broom Remix) [Multiplex - 24]
116 Dynamo - Aufenthalt [Din - 01]

Wighnomy Brothers @ Club Zooma Germany from 2007 is one of the best live sets i've heard. 6 hours, some amazing track selection.

haven't got a link for you, but take my word for it.. still listen to it regularly 10 months on..

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Originally Posted by subjectdetroit

e-mail me at nuid@subjectdetroit.com and I'll give you links to all the DJ Bone Attack Mixes (there's close to 50 different mixes)

..and they are the shit! Woohaa!

I was lucky enough to be at Awakenings to witness Kowalski at his finest, before he went fruity.

http://mixesdb.com/db/index.php/2004...e_@_Awakenings

01 Alexander Kowalski - Response
02 ID
03 ID
04 Agoria - La 11ème Marche (Alexander Kowalski Remix)
05 Alexander Kowalski - Lock Me Up
06 ID
07 Alexander Kowalski - Belo Horizonte (Album Mix)
08 Alexander Kowalski - Ligtning Field
09 Alexander Kowalski - Dynamite Sun
10 ID
11 ID
12 Alexander Kowalski - Belo Horiznte
13 Alexander Kowalski - Speaker Attack

Speaker Attack is mad. There's a sick vid of him playing that live on Youtube.... great tekkers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TOi59oIzPY
saw him in '04 too - great night that

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Originally Posted by buffed

sven vath and cari lekebusch - omen closing party 1998.

that omen party would have been something else!!

and here's 14 hours 40 minutes of it.

http://mixesdb.com/db/index.php?titl...&printable=yes

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Speaker Attack is mad. There's a sick vid of him playing that live on Youtube.... great tekkers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TOi59oIzPY
saw him in '04 too - great night that

i dig that vid

where did you see him?

He was in Perth for boxing day 2003 if memory serves. I went straight after getting back from watching the Two Towers haha. Heiko Laux was djing also, it was a Kanzleramt tour.

Any one have any Juan Atkins?

Juan Atkins (Detroit-USA) @ 3headz Radio Show 03.11.2007

[quote=soma]I agree. Rush is a talentless hack that may as well be banging on pots and pans with a spoon in my opinion

[quote]
rush a talentless hack wtf, the guy is a legend, true he's not the greatest dj out there, but his productions are fucking legendary, motherfucking bass and btw he's one of not many left pushing that raw jacking chicago techno/hard house. check out stuff he released on pro-jex ,high octane, djax-up and kne deep labels it the shit, really jacking, banging shit

I knew that statement would ruffle a few feathers

Rush has an ability to make the word "hard" seem soft. Hard doesn't describe his set a few years back at the Goods Shed. Soma may not like it, but he's a prog boy these days

Umek's older mixes are good fun, if you can put up with lots of ott fx and speed mixing. Grab Live@Timewarp 2003 if you can

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Originally Posted by DamoK

Juan Atkins (Detroit-USA) @ 3headz Radio Show 03.11.2007

Your a legend mate!

Rush can make me dance, thats all i care about sometimes but other times you wouldnt feel like his music
I only enjoy his sets after some red cordial
But for some reason i love Dj Bone all the time

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Originally Posted by jootsiejuice

Rush has an ability to make the word "hard" seem soft. Hard doesn't describe his set a few years back at the Goods Shed. Soma may not like it, but he's a prog boy these days

There's hard and intelligent and then there's hard without rhythm, soul, groove, finesse, structure, form, etc. I consider Rush the electronic music equivalent of heavy metal and death rock, I find it juvenile and not far off a bucket of nails and screws thrown in a spin cycle alongside a jackhammer on concrete. Hard for the sake of hard, it has more in common with death metal, happy hardcore and hard house than it does techno, which by original conception should express emotion via electronic means. The only emotion I detect in music like that is anger, and maybe that works for some, but as mentioned I personally find it juvenile and boring - little more than 'teen angst' if you will. But rock on and so forth, to each his own!

I've never enjoyed the stuff you call hard though mate, but I do have a lot of respect for cats like Surgeon, Oscar Mulero, Oliver Ho, Johannes Heil, Jeff Mills, James Ruskin, Luke Slater, Claude Young, etc. My heart has always been for Detroit and the melodic / warm, rhythmic side of techno, and in the past 5 years, for minimal techno, minimal house / deep house, tech-house and microhouse / glitch as well. Again, to each his own.

As for the borderline or outright prog / electro stuff of recent years, I like very little of it. To be honest all the currently hyped names from Bodzin, to Ananda, to Fake, to Trentemoller, to Booka Shade and the entire Get Physical camp for that matter, to Boratto, to Martinez, to Huntemann and so on and so forth, are massively overrated in my opinion, I find very little of value in their music and if these are the types of artists you're referring to then I agree, this is not techno.

But now this is just going to ruffle even more feathers

Name another genre that elicits such purism and segregation within its own ranks...

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Originally Posted by ManipulatingMusic

I only enjoy his sets after some red cordial

maybe that's what i've been missing all these years

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Originally Posted by soma

I've never enjoyed the stuff you call hard though mate

Um, don't think you've ever heard me play hard.... but ok. Not that I do that anymore....

for the most part i think hard techno has lost its way a bit over the last couple of years. it hasnt progressed perhaps as much as i would have liked. that's why i'm so excited what the guys like klock, dettmann and ostgut are doing - it's hard but there is a bit more there.

saying that, i am also very aware my tastes have softened over the years...

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Originally Posted by jootsiejuice

Um, don't think you've ever heard me play hard.... but ok. Not that I do that anymore....

I've heard you make baby Jesus cry at an MTC once

What I meant by that statement is that my definition of hard is probably not that hard in your eyes. You are into some serious nosebleed stuff mate!

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Originally Posted by Chris Disco

saying that, i am also very aware my tastes have softened over the years...

Likewise.

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Originally Posted by soma

I've heard you make baby Jesus cry at an MTC once

What I meant by that statement is that my definition of hard is probably not that hard in your eyes. You are in to some serious nosebleed stuff mate!

WAS dude. WAS! These days I wear a skirt with 313 printed all over it....

Baby Jesus cried one too many times...

Well I'm a girly man right along with you. Nice skirt btw. But it's a kilt, right? Mon the haggis Angus McWin. They may take our whiskey... but they'll never take our technee!

och aye! tis a kilt... with a MASSIVE sporan.

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Originally Posted by soma

Likewise.

i just worked out my top 15 tracks for the year and cassy came out number 1. yep, it's official. i've definitely gone completely soft. ah well, as long as it sounds good i guess.

nothing wrong with liking cassy mate :-)

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Originally Posted by jarnos

nothing wrong with liking cassy mate :-)

true that.

cassy is sick! toyah - mad heady house, like all her productions...

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Originally Posted by soma

As for the borderline or outright prog / electro stuff of recent years, I like very little of it. To be honest all the currently hyped names from Bodzin, to Ananda, to Fake, to Trentemoller, to Booka Shade and the entire Get Physical camp for that matter, to Boratto, to Martinez, to Huntemann and so on and so forth, are massively overrated in my opinion, I find very little of value in their music and if these are the types of artists you're referring to then I agree, this is not techno.

I agree here mate
With Bodzin he trys for Quantity over Quality and only about 10% of his tracks come out good
Like Sonnenwind and Bedford
Sebo K gives 100% all the time imo
Gui Boratto gets me hooked at first listen but after a few listens i get over is sound
Except with Hera hehe
I agree with Booka Shade as well, they havent made anything good since "Movements", except for the Latest Dj Kicks which is banging

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Originally Posted by soma

Surgeon, Oscar Mulero, Oliver Ho, Johannes Heil, Jeff Mills, James Ruskin, Luke Slater, Claude Young, etc.

Im giving these a listen
Thanks

the new cristian vogel album on tresor is insane... not a set but definitely worth a listen!

And certainly don't forget to check out the likes of Carl Craig (aka Paperclip People, aka Innerzone Orchestra, aka 69) Kenny Larkin, Derrick May, Octave One, Model 500, Drexciya, UR, Mad Mike, Suburban Knight, Rolando (aka Aztec Mystic) Kosmic Messenger (aka Stacey Pullen), E-Dancer (aka Kevin Saunderson), Infiniti (aka Juan Atkins), Claude Young, Jeff Mills, Rotating Assembly, Theo Parrish, Moodyman, Fabrice Lig (aka Soul Designer), Laurent Garnier, Vince Watson, Aril Brikha, Quince, New World Aquarium, etc for a good coverage of the Detroit sound.

Along the surgeon et al tip, the likes of Grovskopa, Luka Baumann and DJ Boss should tickle a few fancies for you.... dark and tough techno with a touch of funk.....

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Originally Posted by stock artist promotions

cassy is sick! toyah - mad heady house, like all her productions...

check this streaming dj set of cassy's recorded last month at panorama. so good...

http://www.geist-agency.com/public/i...te&idArtist=21

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Originally Posted by Chris Disco

check this streaming dj set of cassy's recorded last month at panorama. so good...

http://www.geist-agency.com/public/i...te&idArtist=21

listening now, so far so good! thanks for the tip!

dude this cassy set is REALLY good, third track in is so nice... i like her mixing style, like her panoramabar cd, kind of just fades things out, fucking mad mix! cheers!

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Originally Posted by stock artist promotions

dude this cassy set is REALLY good, third track in is so nice... i like her mixing style, like her panoramabar cd, kind of just fades things out, fucking mad mix! cheers!

yep, the cassy set is really dope. i need to work out how to rip it to mp3... you are right about her mixing style. and her djing is just like her productions - they have this real, genuine feel to them. all heart.

the tobias and margaret dygas sets on that site are also definitely worth checking.

yeah i wanna rip it too, let me know if u figure it out. i'll defo check out the other sets, did u know tobias is her husband?

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Originally Posted by stock artist promotions

yeah i wanna rip it too, let me know if u figure it out. i'll defo check out the other sets, did u know tobias is her husband?

yep. tobias + cassy. that is an excellent team... saying that, his productions under 'tobias' i havent quite liked as much as others. i dont know, they seem a bit flat. even in his livepa.

on the deep house tip that cassy soon heads you down, definitely check out the mountain people and also move d (if you havent already). but i have stopped listening to that, for today at least, and am currently enjoying this:

Jorge Savoretti & Dario Zenker @ Harry Klein 06-12-2007 (tag team the whole night)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GFZES40N or
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2ac013/

where you going? dial and street knowledge are fucking mad when played right, their simplicity and old school feel is what makes them so good imo... but yeah, tobias as part of n.s.i = fucking mad!

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Originally Posted by stock artist promotions

where you going? dial and street knowledge are fucking mad when played right, their simplicity and old school feel is what makes them so good imo... but yeah, tobias as part of n.s.i = fucking mad!

yeah i dunno. i am pretty sure it's me. even 'street knowledge', which everyone loved, just irritated me. i also like some of tobias' stuff as pnk elln and the logistic releases versus atom heart are great...

Yeah have u heard the Pink Elln remix of Chica And The Folder - Schatulle on Monika Enterprise... One of my favourite tracks and his new collab with Ricardo as Odd Machine is pretty fucking mad