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gettin started. putin music on cd's for mixing
Hey ive just finished a dj course and was able to use the CDJ's there and get sum practise but anyway im buyin gear this week (CDJ) and i want to know how i should start a cd folder for all the cds illl be using when i dj.
for example say i have 1000 electro songs on my computer..should i just put a few songs onto cds to mix and practise with in my bedroom and only put the songs i need onto cds when i get a gig, OR should i just start putting all my songs onto cds ?
what would be the best way to do this.
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Electro songs? Easy! There's already a specified Windows directory for them. It's called Recycle Bin.
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yeah great help so far mate
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burn your fave tracks first, mix them up a few times, then burn em all and create some sets. dont mix your fave tracks over and over, you'll soon get sick of hearing them and will never enjoy them as much there after

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ok, this is how the pro's do it.

you need to make one folder called HD

inside the HD folder, make 25 sub-folders

name these folders HD1,HD2,etc all the way up to HD25

open the HD25 folder. this is where you should put your music.
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Hey

Personally id go to the effort first (wish i did) and delete every crap song u dont like.

Or at least make a new folder called Dj songs put only the songs you want to play in there.

Go into Itunes (i made a new account on windows called dj so it was a fresh itunes with nothing else except my dj stuff)

Put all the songs in and then make playlists

cd1
cd2
ect..

Then burn..

When u get new songs make folders in your dj music folder called.... August 2008 with the new songs and add them into itunes go to recently added make more playlist eg. cd51 and burn again

Thats what i do
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yeah thanks heaps so far . more ideas would be appreciated.

and i dont really get that HD 25 folder thing..wats the otha 24 folders for .. ?
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Electro songs? Easy! There's already a specified Windows directory for them. It's called Recycle Bin.

lol best reply hahahahaha gonna put it in my sig


anyways.. to answer your question, if ur fussy like me, for a collection like that, i sort them into folders only 2 to 4 tracks per cd sorted in simliarity for me, in same key and burn them.. but for electro i guess it doesnt matter about harmonics..

or tracks i get off beatport.. just buy the release and burn the whole release.. effectively, its like a vinyl release where u only have a one followed by a couple of remixes per cd and LABEL them
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ok, this is how the pro's do it.

you need to make one folder called HD

inside the HD folder, make 25 sub-folders

name these folders HD1,HD2,etc all the way up to HD25

open the HD25 folder. this is where you should put your music.

I do something similar but with DXM, e.g. DXM-06, DXM-09 etc.
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I just have all the genres foldered

deep tech house 001, 002,003
deep house 001 , 002, 003
Deep US House 001, 002, 003

about 9 - 10 tracks per folder


do up a colour coded label for each genre with the tracks printed on it and the date it was burned. Burn two copies of each folder to cds, then back them all up to an external hard drive
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But seriously! I do what hoppuspears mentioned. I make a new playlist in iTunes called Disc #1, then put 8-10 songs in there arranged from most likely to play through to least likely. Burn two copies of the disc (so you can mix from one to the other if you need to). Write #1 on the disc.

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code the CD's and the folders the same (AA01, AA02... etc...) buy a CD wallet and stickers.

put the code on the CD and assign it a spot in the CD wallet, use the stickers to put on the CD wallet and write that CD serial number on the spot in the wallet where it goes.

if you lose one, you know exactly the tracks that were on it. it it gets scratched beyond repair, throw it out and re-burn.
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alrite thanks for that mcdoofus. i know its probs a bad thing to put say 15-20 songs on each cd but that wud make less cds in my portable cd folder.. ?
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ive changed my mind on how to do this many times... ive got mp3 functionality as most new cdj's should so i wanted to save money on cd's by making mp3 discs with about 30 songs on each one. i also grouped them into styles/genres to keep likely songs i would play in a set together eg a disc for breaks, electro house, fidget, tech funk and the list goes on. works pretty well for me and i also printed off a page for each disc with song lists etc in case im having trouble finding a track
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cosmo - You wont fit more than 10-12 regular songs on a CD, and MP3 discs are a bad idea - some older CDJ models can't play them.. which is bad news if you find that out after you turn up to play your gig.
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^ someone once said on the forums:

"bringing mp3s to gigs is like just as unorganised as not bringing ur own carts."

and plus mp3 takes so long to load the waveform =[
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well yeh nearly all my songs are mp3 cos i dont have the money to buy music and ill just have to hope the cdj models play mp3 lol they shud anyway.
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sooo.. you guys are saying i should mainly use music in gigs that are not downloaded and not mp3?
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well yeh nearly all my songs are mp3 cos i dont have the money to buy music and ill just have to hope the cdj models play mp3 lol they shud anyway.

If you don't have the money to buy music, you don't have the money to play music. You better start saving...
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and i dont really get that HD 25 folder thing..wats the otha 24 folders for .. ?

you leave the other 24 folders empty. only put your best tunes in the HD25 folder
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sooo.. you guys are saying i should mainly use music in gigs that are not downloaded and not mp3?

burn them as audio cds and u should be using mp3 of AT LEAST 320k bitrate or even better WAVes.. else they lack the sound quality in bigger systems...
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well yeh nearly all my songs are mp3 cos i dont have the money to buy music

Get a job paying $15/hr, work 8 hours, earn $120, quit job, buy 50 tracks and a six pack of beer, DJ like a man.
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yeah I've got that one

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sooo.. you guys are saying i should mainly use music in gigs that are not downloaded and not mp3?

What the hell did they teach you at this course? Sounds like they skipped straight through to lesson 20 "Bitches, Money and Fame - How to handle them like a pro".
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sooo.. you guys are saying i should mainly use music in gigs that are not downloaded and not mp3?

I'd get the money back that you paid for your 'DJ Course'
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yeah well no s*it im not gona get a gig probs for a year cos i just started so im sttartin with mp3 then wen i get cash ill buy music for gigs
this is gone off topic .. anymore advice on my original question wud be appreciated.
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yeah well no s*it im not gona get a gig probs for a year cos i just started so im sttartin with mp3 then wen i get cash ill buy music for gigs
this is gone off topic .. anymore advice on my original question wud be appreciated.

mate, what they're saying is the format that you burn the acutal music in. they are saying burn it in WAV format (what u would for a regular CD player) rather than burning them as an MP3 disc. of course the music on ur comp is MP3. Get ur tunes of beatport mate, they're not expensive and burn as 320+ WAVs.
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The ignorance of some people is amazing...


My music is sorted in genre folders and genre playlists in itunes. I burn abotu 8 tracks per CD, by Genre, and label the CD "Proggy 5 August" and Burn 2 copies. Then i change the comment field in itunes to say "BURNED" so I know what songs have been burned. For full releases I just burn the whole release.
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Get Torq Connective for 400 bucks and you won't need to burn anything.. You said you where getting gear and I'd assume it would be something like 2 x CDJ 200's and lets say a Numark DXM09 which would cost around $1940.. you could get a single CDJ400 same mixer Torq Connective and an MAudio trigger finger for around the same price. Do some study, hit youtube and the Maudio website.

PS. don't convert MP3 back to WAV as you will lose sound quality. MP3 320 is fine for your average DJ and is used by club DJs everywhere.
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The ignorance of some people is amazing...


My music is sorted in genre folders and genre playlists in itunes. I burn abotu 8 tracks per CD, by Genre, and label the CD "Proggy 5 August" and Burn 2 copies. Then i change the comment field in itunes to say "BURNED" so I know what songs have been burned. For full releases I just burn the whole release.

This is how you do it.
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Electro songs? Easy! There's already a specified Windows directory for them. It's called Recycle Bin.

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ok, this is how the pro's do it.

you need to make one folder called HD

inside the HD folder, make 25 sub-folders

name these folders HD1,HD2,etc all the way up to HD25

open the HD25 folder. this is where you should put your music.



I'm just a bedroom dj but I have been burning cd's as I buy music. My collection is getting to the stage now where its needs a major re sort which is gonna take ages to re burn a lot of stuff. I would recommend only burning a 5 or so songs per disk and making duplicates of cd's with songs you play frequently since it sucks when you realise that the song you want to play is on the same cd thats playing at that time.
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This is how you do it.

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well yeh nearly all my songs are mp3 cos i dont have the money to buy music and ill just have to hope the cdj models play mp3 lol they shud anyway.

so where you getting the music from?
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Hey

Personally id go to the effort first (wish i did) and delete every crap song u dont like.

Or at least make a new folder called Dj songs put only the songs you want to play in there.

Go into Itunes (i made a new account on windows called dj so it was a fresh itunes with nothing else except my dj stuff)

Put all the songs in and then make playlists

cd1
cd2
ect..

Then burn..

When u get new songs make folders in your dj music folder called.... August 2008 with the new songs and add them into itunes go to recently added make more playlist eg. cd51 and burn again

Thats what i do

that is exactly what i do. also make sure to tick 'embed song titles' in the burning options of itunes, that way song titles come up on cdjs even though its burnt as an audio cd. also i usually put about 10 tracks on cd. right now i only have one cdj so i have no need to burn twice, but you may have to do that if u are planning on mixing tracks that are on the same cd.
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i never buy single tracks. only whole releases, so 1 release = 1 CD.
in saying that, i don't have CDJ's.
can we have votes on how soon this guys equipment will be on the buy and sell forum??
i say 3 weeks.
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Get Torq Connective for 400 bucks and you won't need to burn anything.. You said you where getting gear and I'd assume it would be something like 2 x CDJ 200's and lets say a Numark DXM09 which would cost around $1940.. you could get a single CDJ400 same mixer Torq Connective and an MAudio trigger finger for around the same price. Do some study, hit youtube and the Maudio website.

PS. don't convert MP3 back to WAV as you will lose sound quality. MP3 320 is fine for your average DJ and is used by club DJs everywhere.

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i cant find that ''embed song titles' in itunes to make the song title come up on the cdjs.
there is a box that says 'include cd text' is that the one ?
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besides the lag time are there any other reasons why burn music cd's is better than just burning the mp3's to cd?
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^ not all cdjs have mp3 support
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Why not just put two songs per cd?

I would recommend putting the A side, with the B side it was released with.

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I do as most seem to and import the songs into itunes (make sure it is set to import to 320kbps) then make the playlists i want, i then print the playlist using the itunes print function, i usually try and use a background picture. I then use this picture to make up a cd design with the number and name on it and use white blank cd's to print my own cd labels. you can then easily reference the picture to the cd. if you have copied the tunes from vinyl or itunes or whatever you should have that listed on the heading so you know if its feasible to play on certain soundsystems.

Thats for my bulk of tunes, ive also started taking a smaller cd wallet with single tunes on them with how long it is to the drop and the outro time as i find that having a wallet with so many tunes in it kind of makes your set dart all over the place, its better to have a more narrowed down idea and have the back up of all the others there if you need them.
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I do as most seem to and import the songs into itunes (make sure it is set to import to 320kbps)....


It's a crying shame you're going from CD-Quality to Less-Than-CD-Quality to play out, especially given the choice, IMO.
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how, if its set to import at 320 there should be no difference.
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Yeah but 320 kbps isn't CD quality. He's saying it's a shame to use mp3s when you have the option of using a lossless format (wav or flac).
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