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Originally Posted by dannyhowells

Perth, when I return next time, I'm gonna try and find a venue for an all-night Dig Deeper party. That will hopefully make up for the truncated set you got from me last weekend - I do want to make it up.

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You know what i mean Chachy, absolutely broadly speaking he has shaped the general scene - i do see what you are saying but the bottom line is that Danny is a musician who deserves absolute respect and he is quite clearly not being shown that. I dont blame Damir, I never said anything blaming him directly and I still dont think its his fault this has happened but my problem is his attitude in the aftermath of it all. Sorry to be so blunt mate but get over yourself, shut your mouth and learn from this experience quietly.
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I just meant that we shouldn't really associate Frisk with the house scene any more than we associate the paramount with the house scene.
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are you talking about the locals at the top stage or the djs in the ampitheatre?

Amphitheatre.


Yeah yeah, I know, the locals stage was where it was at.
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yeah fair comment i see your point. but that is just the issue. someone with such an influence and history in defining the house scene should never have played at Frisk
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Originally Posted by dkolonic

More Intensity – pete tong
What is house – david pen..
Tribal experience – jesse garcia
All over the world - ???
Modern love – kosmas
Sofa king – mark Mendez
From the speaker – orig
“man with red colon” – “normal mix”
Deliver me – calvin fisher
Lola theme
Free to ask – d’julz
Block party – sultan
Positive – amo & navas

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Originally Posted by La Gooch

Sorry to be so blunt mate but get over yourself, shut your mouth and learn from this experience quietly.

Burnt!!!.....Man i think we need to cut Damir some slack here.......

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the reason people are giving him shit is because of his attitude to the situation. If he didnt act like a total twat this would've died days ago. But when you keep adding fuel to the fire it continues. But he continues to sling shit on someone who many people have admired for some time. Personally Danny Howells music is a big part of how i got into dance music.
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I just meant that we shouldn't really associate Frisk with the house scene any more than we associate the paramount with the house scene.

oh lol the image that puts in my head...
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Couldn't be bothered reading through all five pages worth so dunno if anyone's said this, but does this whole incident not just underline what a load of crap an event is where a DJ is there to "promote his new CD"??

The warmup DJ perhaps lacked the respect for such an event, Danny Howells had too much respect for it and most of the people on this forum are leaning towards Danny's view.

I think what a load of shit. I want to go to a club/event to see a particular DJ play in the style that I generally know him for. If he wants to play slightly differently to that because it's a promotion then I'd rather not attend at all.

I think for everybody this has been about integrity and dignity.
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what? The warm up dude been deejaying for 6months and got to warm up for Danny???!!
Ive been playing for the same amount of time in sydney and spent 2+ years pouring my heart out in the bedroom.... i want a gig with Danny. =(

At least ill show some respect for the big fella.
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Burnt!!!.....Man i think we need to cut Damir some slack here.......

Dont get me wrong, Damir is a mate of mine but i feel strongly about this and i just dont think that he is in any position to be abusing Danny Howells! Fair play, in principle i guess it could be called standing up for himself but there is absolutely no need to start talking utter smack to someone like that
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Im reading this from London, and i have to say that this has got to be one of the BEST forum threads ITM has ever conjured up.

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It's certainly a topic that has attracted a lot of attention from around the country.

I think it's something more warm up dj's (especially the newer ones) will think about more (hopefully) when opening up for someone (if they didn't already). Sometimes i think i overthink things opening for an international. A little research in to who you're opening for wouldn't be hard if you don't know much about them...
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how about some before communication between the deejays?? i think that was clearly lacking.
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or communication between promoter and dj...
or lack of too.
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Originally Posted by dkolonic

More Intensity – pete tong
What is house – david pen..
Tribal experience – jesse garcia
All over the world - ???
Modern love – kosmas
Sofa king – mark Mendez
From the speaker – orig
“man with red colon” – “normal mix”
Deliver me – calvin fisher
Lola theme
Free to ask – d’julz
Block party – sultan
Positive – amo & navas


here u are heres some tracks i played....this should keep u going for another few days!!!

ps: i was never denying the fact that i banged it out....i was jsut saying that danny shouldnt have being such a fukin girl and refused to come one...

mate these are big big tunes...and no where near as deep as what u need for danny howells.these are way too big room and progressive..

but i understand where you are coming from

the promoters should have told you what you would be expecting

and i take it the venue you play isnt used to hosting acts like danny..

and everyone makes mistakes

dont worry about ppl on the forums....most of them are taking the piss coz they are jaded.
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Funny, funny, funny. Though it reminds me of something Ben Watt said last year in recollection of a gig he played:

"The crowd is sensational. They are grooving bodily to Mic's expert warm-up set (mental note all warm-up DJs out there: he never strayed above 119bpm but the crowd was eating out of his hand in hyped-up expectation). I finally went on at 2am and the place took off."
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LOL @ this thread! That was a great read.

Could DJ Kolonic now be the DJ Zooky of Perth ?? (i.e. most hated local DJ)




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Im reading this from London, and i have to say that this has got to be one of the BEST forum threads ITM has ever conjured up.

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Perth, when I return next time, I'm gonna try and find a venue for an all-night Dig Deeper party. That will hopefully make up for the truncated set you got from me last weekend - I do want to make it up.

...and I will find myself in Perth if that happens.


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the promoters should have told you what you would be expecting


I disagree. Any dj who takes his craft seriously would have done some research beforehand - it's not up to the promotor to tell you what they expect you to play - most assume that you will do some homework, they wouldn't book you otherwise.


When approaching a warm-up set, I just try and put myself into the shoes of the dj coming on after me and the crowd in the room in front of me - if I was a headliner dj, where would I like to start things off from?, if I was a punter in this crowd, excatly what mood would I like to be experiencing right now? it's not that hard - no djing is - but a little foresight is required and is maybe something that is developed with a bit more experience.
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and if it wasn't for cdj's this would have never happened

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and if it wasn't for cdj's this would have never happened

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I disagree. Any dj who takes his craft seriously would have done some research beforehand - it's not up to the promotor to tell you what they expect you to play - most assume that you will do some homework, they wouldn't book you otherwise.


When approaching a warm-up set, I just try and put myself into the shoes of the dj coming on after me and the crowd in the room in front of me - if I was a headliner dj, where would I like to start things off from?, if I was a punter in this crowd, excatly what mood would I like to be experiencing right now? it's not that hard - no djing is - but a little foresight is required and is maybe something that is developed with a bit more experience.

well

promoters reallt should book djs specially for the event they are hosting as well...

local djs have their own styles too...

promoters should really carefully plan who they put on before hand..this only shows they had no idea...

i could book tydi to warm up for danny howells, could u say tydi is a bad dj?
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yws but as a resident at the club it is HIS JOB to fit in with the MAIN ACT. Not the other way round. I think the headline of the article is particularly harsh towards Danny as well, when he hit the nail on the head. This isn't just a problem in Perth either
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well he plays trance, so yes

I thought he played breaks
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i could book tydi to warm up for danny howells, could u say tydi is a bad dj?

No, I would say you are a moron.

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I saw Colon in his chart, as Man with the Red Colon, that's why I spelt it wrong.

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well i could book tydi to warm up for danny howells, could u say tydi is a bad dj?

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No, I would say you are a moron.

no mate,

the problem everyone has towards him is

he got to warm up for danny,

and you didnt

he fucked up..

so lets all bag him out on inthenerd

the reality is

most of you have no idea..and will never get to play anything that big

so you can sit on inthenerd and stroke your chin and be old and jaded...

get over yourselves....not his fault you are stuck in your bedroom for life

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and before you start your history education on me

i DONT know u...

what i know is

bagging other djs out publicly is not the way to go..everyone makes mistakes and so do you!

thats why danny himself wanted to let this case rest.
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most of you have no idea..and will never get to play anything that big

so you can sit on inthenerd and stroke your chin and be old and jaded...

get over yourselves....not his fault you are stuck in your bedroom for life

fuck. you're so right. my life has just been disappointment after disappointment. i'll never be a rock and roll star, i'll never be, anything, anything at all.

edit: all i can do all day is sit on, what was your name for it? right, right, "inthenerd", and be sad fuck.

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get over yourselves....not his fault you are stuck in your bedroom for life

i'd say take your own advice

i can name 20 DJ's who've never warmed up for a INT DJ who would have done a better job than this guy and acted in a more professional manner.
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i'd say take your own advice

i can name 20 DJ's who've never warmed up for a INT DJ who would have done a better job than this guy and acted in a more professional manner.

exactly my point

its him who got the spot

i can name 50 local djs here in brisbane who could have/would have done a better job

what does it matter?

he did screw up...

bagging him out doesnt help him though, does it..
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bagging him out doesnt help him though, does it..

no but it entertains me a fair bit
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Wow - what a thread!

No time to read it all, but my two cents are as follows...

A) the warm DJ is there to warm up the crowd, in my minds eye that means it's OK to build things up towards the end of set, but yes, not to really got harder than the headliner would play.

B) if the crowd is building up early and gagging for more, give it to them, but have the professionalism to realise you need to start pitching things back down AT LEAST 20-30mins prior to the internationals start...there is no point in leaving the crowd thinking you're fucking boring just as to not offend the next DJ

C) while the warm set should be appropriate, a DJ of Dannys calibre should have the skills and tracks in his bag to handle a situation like this...to start with, the guy did wind it back down, and if it wasn't down enough, let his last track play out and for your first track, play something which has a moody, brooding intro to set the scene. Heard many many DJs do this over the years, the people stay on the floor, the energy remains, you're just bringing things back to the level you want to start at.

D) having a cry about it on your blog is about as professional as the warm up DJ not showing respect to whome he was warming up for.

I'm torn...yes, kolonic, you should pull your head in and play appropriately to whomever you're warming up for, but at the same time, Danny can harden the fuck up as far as I'm concerned as any DJ at that level should be able to deal with this kind of situation like water off a ducks back...reset the mood to what you want it to be, and then build it back up again...ain't hard...whinging about it on your blog makes you look like a big sooky lala
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bagging him out doesnt help him though, does it..

...and neither does he help himself by posting the shit he did.

Essential elements you've forgotten:
  1. He fucked up
  2. He didn't know he fucked up
  3. He came on the 'internerd' saying what a champ he was
  4. He came on the 'internerd' saying what a girl Danny Howells is
  5. He gets his mates to come on the 'internerd' to say what a great dj he is
  6. Still fails to recognise the concept of what a warm-up is
  7. Gets flamed


I don't care if someone fucks up, and probably only half the people in this thread do. The fact that he acted like a complete tool, and saying that Danny Howells was a lesser dj (edit: which is quite ironic, when he didn't lock-in Laurent Garnier as the original track of Man With The Red Face) because he could follow his set after the fact, displayed a complete lack of respect was his undoing.

People like kolonic are testament to the notion that every fuckwit with a set of cdj's thinks he's a dj - it's not just about the tunes, it about delivering for the punters for the whole night, because when you're set is over, the punters will still be there infront of the man following you.

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exactly my point

its him who got the spot

i can name 50 local djs here in brisbane who could have/would have done a better job

what does it matter?

he did screw up...

bagging him out doesnt help him though, does it..

I love it when people think they have a point
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Wow - what a thread!

No time to read it all, but my two cents are as follows...

A) the warm DJ is there to warm up the crowd, in my minds eye that means it's OK to build things up towards the end of set, but yes, not to really got harder than the headliner would play.

B) if the crowd is building up early and gagging for more, give it to them, but have the professionalism to realise you need to start pitching things back down AT LEAST 20-30mins prior to the internationals start...there is no point in leaving the crowd thinking you're fucking boring just as to not offend the next DJ

C) while the warm set should be appropriate, a DJ of Dannys calibre should have the skills and tracks in his bag to handle a situation like this...to start with, the guy did wind it back down, and if it wasn't down enough, let his last track play out and for your first track, play something which has a moody, brooding intro to set the scene. Heard many many DJs do this over the years, the people stay on the floor, the energy remains, you're just bringing things back to the level you want to start at.

D) having a cry about it on your blog is about as professional as the warm up DJ not showing respect to whome he was warming up for.

I'm torn...yes, kolonic, you should pull your head in and play appropriately to whomever you're warming up for, but at the same time, Danny can harden the fuck up as far as I'm concerned as any DJ at that level should be able to deal with this kind of situation like water off a ducks back...reset the mood to what you want it to be, and then build it back up again...ain't hard...whinging about it on your blog makes you look like a big sooky lala




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