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mixing hip hop...
just wondering if anyone could offer any tips...

never tried this before used to play hard trance but am now looking to play hip hop

can anyone recommend any sites that have tips ect?

tutorial vids?
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same principle. generally a bit harder because you don't have long intros & outros, and the beats tend to be more over the place. just practice.

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A method that a DJ i used to work with used to do was wicky-wicky-boom (as in scratch and drop). Usually you only have about 1-4 bars at best to do your mix so just keep it tight. Most hip-hop tracks have plenty of rapping/singing so sometimes you only have 2 beats of no-singing before a track ends so don't be afraid to do a few spin backs too.
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If you want to step it up a little then get hip hop acapellas and hip hop instrumentals. 3 decks drop the acapellas over the instrumentals. wicky wicky drop the new instrumentals in with the acapella still going for a smooth transition. Check out DJ switch > ahhhh love his mxing stylz. thats a good example of how to mix hip hop.
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most videos are a waste of time, listen to lots of mixtapes, try only mixing instrumentals, and learn how to beat mix very quickly, also teach your self how to scratch/juggle by practicing. most importantly, know and love the music, its the only way.
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Its a much shorter mix when mixing hip hop. Just try mix in the 2nd track at a good time which is where your own judgement will come in =p Also try some sampling and fade out scratches to mix it up a bit. Just mess around with it and practice ALOT
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depends what you mean by 'hip hop' really. some of it is a bit easier to mix (the club stuff - think 50 cent) and other stuff is a bit more random/less formulaic. i mix a lot of hip hop, as in tribe called quest, das efx, big l etc style hip hop. often theres no hook or anything to blend with.

now with house, breaks, techno, dnb, trance etc when you're mixing you are usually trying to do a nice mix or something that sounds good. you're usually mixing the two trackcs with both faders up quite a bit. you fiddle with eq's to make tracks go together - you're mixing.

with hip hop, its more about just playing tracks. its less about putting the two together and more about making a transition from one track to the next.

anyway, don't be ashamed to simply wait until the end of a verse and slam it over to the other side at the start of another. that is a lot of hip hop mixing - a simple swapover or a swapover with a few wiki-wikis thrown in. what i'm saying is, forget being polished, or technically perfect, you've just gotta forget everything and do anythign that sounds decent. i'd say that slamming it over in hip hop is the equivalent of mixing intro/outro in EDM.
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most videos are a waste of time..
learn how to beat mix very quickly,
also teach your self how to scratch/juggle by practicing...

I've always said that the best way to learn to mix hip hop is to learn how to beat juggle - No need to try and be a DMC champion, just learn the basic concept - Make sure you are getting it in time, and learn to do it without using headphones
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edit - my favorite hip hop mix actually has no blends. a few beatmatched acapellas but not really any blends. it also contains nasty backspins. like, at least 6-7 in a 60 minute mix
its funkmaster flex - 60 minutes of funk volume two. love it for the tracks more than the mixing though. which says something about hip hop mixing. now i'm rambling.
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thanks for the advise guys...much appreciated!!!!
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get into making cuts as much as mixes/fades

oh .. and work on your scratching
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working on ur scratching will improve your scratching...

there are many amazing scratch dj's that can't string two tracks together.
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Funnily enough I've been asked to do a hip hop (commercial) gig this weekend, will be VERY interesting considering I haven't been mixing much with hip hop lately. Just did some practice and it was 50% shit 50% good and all fucken arse - ROFL
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omg i just watched one of dj switchs videos on youtube and just remembered the swweet sound of scratching on vinyl
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Funnily enough I've been asked to do a hip hop (commercial) gig this weekend, will be VERY interesting considering I haven't been mixing much with hip hop lately. Just did some practice and it was 50% shit 50% good and all fucken arse - ROFL

Haha someone needs to get some practice on quick smart! Goodluck with it man!
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i'm also learning how to mix hip hop verrrrrry slowly. it's a pain in the arse, but i find it to be the flat out most fun to mix. the hard part (for me) is that unlike breaks/house, when most tracks will work with most tracks, there are just some tunes that flat out don't go together because of their bpms or too many vocals.

i advise getting instrumental albums. power in numbers or quality control by jurassic five. the instrumental versions are perfect for mixing.

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i'm also learning how to mix hip hop verrrrrry slowly. it's a pain in the arse, but i find it to be the flat out most fun to mix. the hard part (for me) is that unlike breaks/house, when most tracks will work with most tracks, there are just some tunes that flat out don't go together because of their bpms or too many vocals.

i advise getting instrumental albums. power in numbers or quality control by jurassic five. the instrumental versions are perfect for mixing.

The auto looping in Serato helps out significantly for those short intros and avoiding the clashing vocals.
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The auto looping in Serato helps out significantly for those short intros and avoiding the clashing vocals.

I was just about to say that auto-loop ftw

Also a bit of 4-2-1-1/2 bang looping works well. Serrato helps if you don't know your tunes well (like me) with its auto BPM

I agree with bones, hip hop is pretty decent fun to mix its and it should be its where the art of DJing, scratching etc originated from. Nothing more fun then just dropping tracks and being as brutal as possible and still managing to make it sound good.
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The auto looping in Serato helps out significantly for those short intros and avoiding the clashing vocals.

i only mix vinyl.

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The music that I push in my opinion is probably a bit too mature for someone who listens to "Trance" but hey, we all have to start somewhere?

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Any of you mix hip hop using only CDJ's and no vinyl ?
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haha, i wish. actually i own serato, i could count on one hand the amount of times i've used it. i want to know how to mix really well using just vinyl, before i make the move to serato.

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Any of you mix hip hop using only CDJ's and no vinyl ?

Will you flame me if I do?
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haha, i wish. actually i own serato, i could count on one hand the amount of times i've used it. i want to know how to mix really well using just vinyl, before i make the move to serato.

Fair call, the combination of my shit T80 turntable, my inability to get a perfect beat match on TT, and cost of vinly is make it less and less appealing to use.
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Originally Posted by louislogic

working on ur scratching will improve your scratching...

there are many amazing scratch dj's that can't string two tracks together.


talk about fake crew
ya posse jus met an ya hype man hates you
an tell ya girl still standin in line
hey yo don't wear echo and gucci at the same time
you should know the two just don't mix
kinda like most Dj's who do tricks
you been doin this since 1986 right?
so why can't you blend tight
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Will you flame me if I do?

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talk about fake crew
ya posse jus met an ya hype man hates you
an tell ya girl still standin in line
hey yo don't wear echo and gucci at the same time
you should know the two just don't mix
kinda like most Dj's who do tricks
you been doin this since 1986 right?
so why can't you blend tight

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The music that I push in my opinion is probably a bit too mature for someone who listens to "Trance" but hey, we all have to start somewhere?

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Well I mix with CDDJs/Serrato. Although if I wanted to be a serious hip-hop DJ I would at least be using TTs/Serrato to mix/scratch. Serrato is wicked for scratching can build a track of samples to scratch - no more tape!

EDIT: Serrato should read digital setup
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it's a 7L & eso rhyme that illustrated louis point

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ah. i knew it illustrated the point, i was just wondering who did the rhyme.. searched it on google to no avail.

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Brain in gear is the track

off a 12" though, dunno if the lyrics are online
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haha, they aren't.

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eso is the bomb, so many punchlines.. love the whole demigodz actually. such a soft spot for celph titled
thats all I listened to in high school
used to listen to that exact rhyme and always notice it because it was such a good description of myself at that time...
took me 2 or 3 years of scratching before I even tried to beatmatch
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