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Except er, dominate the domestic PC market. OHSNAP!

doesn't mean i have to use it or be dominated by it

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^^^ haha!

> None, they've got better things to do with they're time.

that's exactly my point! there are people who want to do all that, and then there are people who don't want to do that. macs are for those who don't. everything just runs out of the box. there isn't that much room to customize things.

that's not a bad thing, that's a good thing.

Exactly. That doesn't make it a dumbed down OS or an OS for idiots.
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Exactly. That doesn't make it a dumbed down OS or an OS for idiots.

there are idiots using both platforms

let's reword this with a question, which OS would you recommend to most idiots?
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there are idiots using both platforms

let's reword this with a question, which OS would you recommend to most idiots?

OSX, i would also recommend OSX to nerds, as i had nerds recommend OSX to me. i would only recommend windows to 'fiddlers'

nice trying to take only one side of the coin macca and make OSX look crap ;P fail..


but an easy to use OSX built on the best OS base (unix) suits far more people than windows

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nice trying to take only one side of the coin macca and make OSX look crap ;P fail..

which is exactly what you have been trying to do but for windows! lol that's the whole point of this argument isn't it? the point of this thread was lost about 50 posts ago

plan-b, yes it does make it dumbed down. whether or not the user is an idiot, well that changes from person to person.
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which is exactly what you have been trying to do but for windows! lol that's the whole point of this argument isn't it? the point of this thread was lost about 50 posts ago

no, i would ultimately defnd windows in it deserved it. i've used it for long enough it short comings. where as you know nothing about OSX in reality ;P


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plan-b, yes it does make it dumbed down. whether or not the user is an idiot, well that changes from person to person.

why is easy bad :/ why is difficult good :/ if you really want difficult linux in command line. highly customisable though

you obviously know nothing about 90% of computer users :/

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> why is easy bad :/ why is difficult good :/

that's like asking why do some people like trance and other don't?

it's personal preference. difficult isn't difficult if you know what you're doing, but because you like doing it, you do it.

welcome back, you've just experienced the full circle. see you next time!
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It's not that I taking only one side of the coin fuzi, but I would say the majority of computer users don't use all of the features of windows, let alone the extra ones contained in OSX

To put it in dj booth context, I play vinyl, and don't really use effects when I mix

I can play cdjs as well, it's probably easier and cheaper in the long run, and some say it's a better format, but all the extra features they offer do not interest me.

If someone asks me what it's best to learn on, I say vinyl, because you will learn the skills that others take for granted
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> why is easy bad :/ why is difficult good :/

that's like asking why do some people like trance and other don't?

it's personal preference. difficult isn't difficult if you know what you're doing, but because you like doing it, you do it.

welcome back, you've just experienced the full circle. see you next time!

ok i will leave you to anjoy your bad OS

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ps. Apple stole the dock from Linux.

and linux got it from RISCOS and nextstep
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which is exactly what you have been trying to do but for windows! lol that's the whole point of this argument isn't it? the point of this thread was lost about 50 posts ago

plan-b, yes it does make it dumbed down. whether or not the user is an idiot, well that changes from person to person.

No it doesn't, the customisation I used to do in Windows installs were Mainly for performance. Disabling the bubbliness, killing minimisation/maximisarion animations, killing start up items in the registry etc. changing my ext. soundcard buffer so it wouldn't flake out etc.

The fact that I don't need do this to get the same performance out of OS X and my soundcard works how i want it to straight without the need to fiddle with drivers that used to crap out after an hour forcing the need to reboot make it dumbed down? Seems to be more intilligent to me.
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there are idiots using both platforms

let's reword this with a question, which OS would you recommend to most idiots?

Most people I talk to aren't idiots. But when people ask at work:

Desginers, artists etc. Mac.
Accountants, people shopping for a PC for their 80 year old mother, cheap $500 PC from Dell.
Autodesk users. High end Windows PC or if they want Mac running bootcamp for their Autodesk packages.
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If someone asks me what it's best to learn on, I say vinyl, because you will learn the skills that others take for granted

completely different topic, but yes agreed.
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I feel your pain, Matty! It's a fucking resource hungry beast which keeps failing me, too!
Loses the library, just spaz's out and then the shortcut on the taskbar changes pic from the iTunes logo to a blank Windows logo and won't load...it's a fucking dog!!!

BTW - this seems like as good a thread as any as it's kinda iTunes related...what software do I need to ripping a CD to 320K MP3s??? iTunes only does 192K (unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) and Win Media Player on does it to .WMA failes (again, unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) - any advice appreciated!

And while at it, is there any easy way to rip a CD to .WAV outside of opening the files with Audacity et al and extracting as .WAV?

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i've used windows as my main OS sine about 1991.

re-reading the thread lulz, i just saw this. were you having me on? windows 3.0 as your main os? impossible! it ran from dos, and even windows 3.1 ran from dos.

so fail on that poindexter!
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BTW - this seems like as good a thread as any as it's kinda iTunes related...what software do I need to ripping a CD to 320K MP3s??? iTunes only does 192K (unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) and Win Media Player on does it to .WMA failes (again, unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) - any advice appreciated!

And while at it, is there any easy way to rip a CD to .WAV outside of opening the files with Audacity et al and extracting as .WAV?


I using vista, windows media player, look in the rip menu options, it's all there

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BTW - this seems like as good a thread as any as it's kinda iTunes related...what software do I need to ripping a CD to 320K MP3s??? iTunes only does 192K (unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) and Win Media Player on does it to .WMA failes (again, unless there's something I'm doing wrong?) - any advice appreciated!

And while at it, is there any easy way to rip a CD to .WAV outside of opening the files with Audacity et al and extracting as .WAV?

iTunes or Windows Media Player for both... iTunes will do it, I can't remember where to change it (I don't have it on my work laptop) but it is there...
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i heard apple have decided to update their wifi components. all you have to do to upgrade is... buy this new computer. people have already started lining up to be the first to get them too. thats how good they are!!

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re-reading the thread lulz, i just saw this. were you having me on? windows 3.0 as your main os? impossible! it ran from dos, and even windows 3.1 ran from dos.

so fail on that poindexter!

YOU HAVE ME UNDER THE THUNMB NOW!!! OH NOESSS YOU TROLLED ALL MY POSTS LOOKING FOR ONE FAIL!!!

OH NOESSSS

i am quiet happy that u felt the need to troll all my posts again ^__^

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ps. Apple stole the dock from Linux.

who stole it from jobs when he made nextstep, the video below is release 3.0 that was released in 92.

linux still used commandline or a basic windowing system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A

even nextstep had a built in dictionary which windows does not

nextstep became OSX.

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YOU HAVE ME UNDER THE THUNMB NOW!!! OH NOESSS YOU TROLLED ALL MY POSTS LOOKING FOR ONE FAIL!!!

OH NOESSSS

i am quiet happy that u felt the need to troll all my posts again ^__^

i love you too

hahah! i wasn't insinuating that, just saying that i saw this and thought "wait a moment is this dude just being a trolly mctrollsworth?"

i believe the answer is yes.
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hahah! i wasn't insinuating that, just saying that i saw this and thought "wait a moment is this dude just being a trolly mctrollsworth?"

i believe the answer is yes.

even i admit it

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a troll



but you haven't been able to pin on the facts i produced.

trolling with facts is almost as trolling for fun

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A very entertaining thread this, possibly the only one I've ever emailed to other people.
edit: to begin with anyway, it gets a bit shit

So my slant on how this debate has panned out -even though it kicked off as an iTunes rant, a program I'm still dubious about- is that I've recently switched to a Mac for the first time in over a decade of PC use, and am as Ronald sings, Luvin' It.

Just to highlight a point fuziwuzi was trying to raise about the 'straight-for-the-box' easiness of use...
The PC brigade jumped on him with wails of Dumbed Down!, but his points remain valid.

Things work when you turn it on. Hey user, should I connect to that wireless connection? Yes please Mac. Should I then wirelessly network all other Macs in the house? Why not.
Stuff that for your average user takes hours monkeying about with equally-perplexed customer care Injuns ticking and unticking boxes and settings.

But yeah, we can do that ourselves, that's just for the lame mums & dads... possibly true, but why not just make these things work from the offset? Everyone enjoys an element of tweaking & customisation, but Windows just feels like a very shaky incomplete product by comparison.

I'm of the conclusion that the Mac hat0rz just actually haven't spent time using one bar the rudimentary fiddlings on a Dick Smiths display piece 'til security tell them to sling their hooks.

I know Spicy hasn't anyway, simply because he can't afford one.

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I'm of the conclusion that the Mac hat0rz just actually haven't spent time using one bar the rudimentary fiddlings on a Dick Smiths display piece 'til security tell them to sling their hooks.

I know Spicy hasn't anyway, simply because he can't afford one.

bah just when i thought i was done with this thread, some knobhead comes in and insults me.
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One of my friends has a mac, but he gets angry when other people touch it
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bah just when i thought i was done with this thread, some knobhead comes in and insults me.

you deserve it - im a mac!

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Just realised this is in The DJ Booth.

Well I'll be.
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Things work when you turn it on. Hey user, should I connect to that wireless connection? Yes please Mac. Should I then wirelessly network all other Macs in the house? Why not.
Stuff that for your average user takes hours monkeying about with equally-perplexed customer care Injuns ticking and unticking boxes and settings.

But yeah, we can do that ourselves, that's just for the lame mums & dads... possibly true, but why not just make these things work from the offset? Everyone enjoys an element of tweaking & customisation, but Windows just feels like a very shaky incomplete product by comparison.

Bingo, I can do this myself... I do this for a living... Why would I want to come home and do this here as well??

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Except er, dominate the domestic PC market. OHSNAP!

Force feeding isn't dominating.

When you have the choice between Linux and Microsoft of course you're average consumer is going to choose Micro$hit.
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PS. Everyone who's complaining about iTunes needs to get a Mac. It never fails.

Microsoft is the AIDS, not iTunes.

Stop fucking moaning about Apple products, don't buy them, don't use iTunes. Use WMP and Zune, they're SO much better

PPS. Microsoft

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^^ Nothing wrong with Microsoft, Apple just can't write decent software for Windows... Just like Microsoft can't write decent software for OS X (I haven't used Office for Mac but MSN for Mac and Entourage is balls)

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there seems to be a new itunes update out today

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I can't believe you people still argue over which OS is better.

Dos = win
3.1 = alright
95 = pretty good
98 = the bomb
2000/me = wtf happened
xp = only good because we could spend hours making it the way we wanted it
vista = extra chromosome
7 = No problems with it myself yet

mac OSX = Communism (in theory, because communism works...in theory) (ps this is supposed to be a compliment, to a degree...i think?) :S

I like the Mac OS. I Prefer windows 7 however. I use photoshop, Ableton, I used to use flash (haven't tried it on 7 yet) And I've never had any problems with any of them. HOWEVER...Ableton crashed a couple times on me in XP. That's it.

Get over it.

PS my itunes still is broken.

Someone skii the interweb and find me the answer. I'm too busy not caring about what OS I use.


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Uh...


What happened to my iTunes thread?

You started a thread on ITM about Macs, that's what happened. It's like starting a thread asking whether Trance is good, what do you expect? The same boring drivel.
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mac OSX = Communism (in theory, because communism works...in theory) (ps this is supposed to be a compliment, to a degree...i think?) :S

*bites tongue*

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2000/me = wtf happened

What was wrong with Windows 2000???

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there seems to be a new itunes update out today

9.0.2? It was out a couple of weeks ago

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Trance is ace dude, it'll turn you into a man

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*bites tongue*

lol...well...it depends on what you're talking about. I have trouble finding software for macs is what I mean, I felt a bit too limited when I had one. I take my comment back about being a communist operating system but I don't like being forced to do things a different way, or told what I can and can't do.

The fact that I can right click any movie file (yes, HD porn if you want) and it sends straight to either of my 40" lcd's, is enough for me to want to use windows.

/brag

edit: it's even funnier when I send random videos to my housemates!
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i herd u like starting threads prematurely

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I spent hours trying to fix it, windows or itunes fixed itself. Who cares.


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