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Or you could just use a cover...

'Tis very interesting that the Nexus One isn't far off the iPhone 4 and the 3GS owns both of them.

19.8 is not even close to 10.7 in the "holding naturally" (presumably the most common) category.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/t...one-4-review/2

anand's take on signal. interesting read. perhaps nick farrell and his fgt buddies could take a leaf out of the credible journalism approach.

Apples customer care directives:

1. Keep all of the positioning statements in the BN handy -- your tone when delivering this information is important.
a. The iPhone 4's wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. Our testing shows that iPhone 4's overall antenna performance is better than iPhone 3GS.
b. Gripping almost any mobile phone in certain places will reduce its reception. This is true of the iPhone 4, the iPhone 3GS, and many other phones we have tested. It is a fact of life in the wireless world.
c. If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 3GS, avoid covering the bottom-right side with your hand.
d. If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 4, avoid covering the black strip in the lower-left corner of the metal band.
e. The use of a case or Bumper that is made out of rubber or plastic may improve wireless performance by keeping your hand from directly covering these areas.
2. Do not perform warranty service. Use the positioning above for any customer questions or concerns.
3. Don't forget YOU STILL NEED to probe and troubleshoot. If a customer calls about their reception while the phone is sitting on a table (not being held) it is not the metal band.
4. ONLY escalate if the issue exists when the phone is not held AND you cannot resolve it.
5. We ARE NOT appeasing customers with free bumpers -- DON'T promise a free bumper to customers.

Spoiler:

What's your point?

he thinks he's being clever by copy/pasting a purported leaked memo from a few days ago.

funny images fgts

/to me

There's an amusing image thread in the general forum nub.

thread should be renamed to 'post your favourite apple related news article and/or image megathread'.

fkn ubergeeks

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fkn ubergeeks

Nub.

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Originally Posted by chimby

'Tis very interesting that the Nexus One isn't far off the iPhone 4 and the 3GS owns both of them.

The difference is, nexus shows a small approx 3db attenuation jump when being held naturally, where the iphone 4 jumps 10db+

I've never had 3g drop out because I was holding my nexus naturally in either my left or right hand.

It should be noted too, that the 3gs was built before the new FCC rules for phone radiation, meaning nexus & iphone 4.0 have had to comply to these rules and place their antenna towards the bottom of the phone. Read: your 3GS is melting your brain.

i dont really want to get involved but the review states that the iphone4 is better at holding connections when the signal is weakened.

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Originally Posted by diarx

It should be noted too, that the 3gs was built before the new FCC rules for phone radiation, meaning nexus & iphone 4.0 have had to comply to these rules and place their antenna towards the bottom of the phone. Read: your 3GS is melting your brain.

3gs antenna is at the bottom of the phone. Read: dairy is spreading propaganda.

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Read: dairy is spreading propaganda.

Never!

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Originally Posted by diarx

It should be noted too, that the 3gs was built before the new FCC rules for phone radiation, meaning nexus & iphone 4.0 have had to comply to these rules and place their antenna towards the bottom of the phone. Read: your 3GS is melting your brain.

I'm more worried about my pet lizard than my brain, tbh.

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Originally Posted by rancho

3gs antenna is at the bottom of the phone. Read: dairy is spreading propaganda.

May not be antenna placement, but tougher regulations have meant less radiation is allowed to be directed towards the head, meaning newer phones have more antenna design constraints placed on them than the outdated 3GS brainmelt edition.

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Read: dairy is spreading propaganda.

Isn't that the Apple way?

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Isn't that the Apple way?

Nah, that's Dell Mick. Should stop confusing the two.

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Nah, that's Dell Mick. Should stop confusing the two.

Hi, I'm a Dairy, and I'm a Chimby…

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Originally Posted by diarx

May not be antenna placement, but tougher regulations have meant less radiation is allowed to be directed towards the head, meaning newer phones have more antenna design constraints placed on them than the outdated 3GS brainmelt edition.

Brainmelt... you and the FCC have been fooled by propaganda aimed at stopping the natural evolution of X-Men like mutants. Wake up and smell the coffee man.. they are limiting future generations ability and right to develop super powers.

I gotta admit it IS easy to imagine Job and Gates inviting each other to dinner these days to swap public enemy #1 stories and make fun of Steve Ballmer.

Woz > Ballmer

Apple defiantly has (err, had) the cooler tubby sidekick.

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I gotta admit it IS easy to imagine Job and Gates inviting each other to dinner these days to swap public enemy #1 stories and make fun of Steve Ballmer.

FOUR WORDS:

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There is no problem

Terrible photoshop job. 0/10.

These are not the trolls you're looking for.

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Terrible photoshop job. 0/10.

i'd agree, but it's paint

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These are not the trolls you're looking for.

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These are not the trolls you're looking for.

lulz

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Originally Posted by chimby

'Tis very interesting that the Nexus One isn't far off the iPhone 4 and the 3GS owns both of them.

just to add to the fire, nexus one has been known not to hold very well to data connections. i never noticed this in australia, but over here the reception is not that great, and the fucking thing swaps fairly frequently between 3G and edge. dnw edge fuckin!

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/02/...update-coming/

that is such bullshit. what a bunch of dicks.

I do believe the antennas they use have a design issue, but it could be a combo of both the design and what's mentioned in that article. I'll be pimping a case on mine plus the new firmware so it's not a total non issue for me. (When I finally get one.)

Gizmodo article on why the update will not fix the issues:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/07/wh...ption-problem/

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...phone-fail-log

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just to add to the fire, nexus one has been known not to hold very well to data connections. i never noticed this in australia, but over here the reception is not that great, and the fucking thing swaps fairly frequently between 3G and edge. dnw edge fuckin!

Are you with Voda by chance?? I have the same issue with my iPhone, I usually end up chucking my phone into Flight mode 3 or 4 times a day just to fix the data connection. Vodafone's fix?? Disable 3G on the phone. Really close to complaining to the TIO about it.

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Originally Posted by diarx

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...phone-fail-log

That article is sensationalist bullshit. You read the equivalent of the Herald Sun don't you?

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Originally Posted by chimby

Gizmodo article on why the update will not fix the issues:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/07/wh...ption-problem/

Gizmodo reporting on Apple is like a Brain Cancer victim fighting for toughen mobile radiation laws imo.
After Gizmodo banned them from the conference they seem to be using every tiny detail and making a song and dance about it when Apple are involved.


A person on Whirlpool claims its "greasy wog hands" that cause the drop outs.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum....cfm?t=1479428

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That article is sensational

I concur

Context is sensational.

Is anyone following ceoSteveJobs on twitter??

"Just FaceTimed my wife. If you know what I mean."

Mac dinovo wireless keyboard, $39

http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smal...oducts_id=4598

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Is anyone following ceoSteveJobs on twitter??

"Just FaceTimed my wife. If you know what I mean."

http://twitter.com/fatstevejobs/status/1122787753

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Originally Posted by Hooch1981

Woz > Ballmer

Apple defiantly has (err, had) the cooler tubby sidekick.

Woz is more in Linus Torvalds' ballpark these days.

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Mac dinovo wireless keyboard, $39

http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smal...oducts_id=4598

i dont need one, but its still tempting

oh wait, not bluetooth. fuk dat.

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i dont need one, but its still tempting

Same here. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the keyboards I have now.