YAY THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE OFF-SEASON TALK THIS YEAR!

I'll start this thread off with my top 10 draft prediction (presuming there are no trades made)

1. Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck (QB)
2. St Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon (WR)
3. Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil (OT)
4. Cleveland Browns - Robert Griffin III (QB)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Morris Claiborne (CB)
6. Washington Redskins - Riley Reiff (OT)
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Floyd (WR)
8. Carolina Panthers - Courtney Upshaw (DE/LB)
9. Miami Dolphins - David DeCastro (OG)
10. Buffalo Bills - Quinton Coples (DE)

Floyd to Jaskconville is interesting, there is no doubt they need a wr though. Really looking forward to the offseason, some big names like Manning, Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson etc may be on the move. Bring it on!

I can't see DJax staying in Philly but Vincent Jackson might stay in San Diego depending on what other offers are out there.

I still like my Manning to Cleveland idea tbh.

Another option for Jacksonville is that they trade out of the top 10 and get Floyd a little later. I admit 8 is a bit of a stretch and he'd probably still be on the board at least until 18 or so.

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Originally Posted by Kid Creme

YAY THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE OFF-SEASON TALK THIS YEAR!

I'll start this thread off with my top 10 draft prediction (presuming there are no trades made)

1. Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck (QB)
2. St Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon (WR)
3. Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil (OT)
4. Cleveland Browns - Robert Griffin III (QB)
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Morris Claiborne (CB)
6. Washington Redskins - Riley Reiff (OT)
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Floyd (WR)
8. Carolina Panthers - Courtney Upshaw (DE/LB)
9. Miami Dolphins - David DeCastro (OG)
10. Buffalo Bills - Quinton Coples (DE)

I agree with this mostly, but alot depends on whether Matt Flynn is signed by the Dolphins & where Peyton Manning ends up if the Colts let him go. The Redskins will no doubt trade up if they don't land a QB in free agency meaning either the Rams or Vikings will look to swap picks meaning Griffin will be off the earlier. I think the Rams need to take Blackmon given that Lloyd will likely go to New England (no good drafting Kalil to protect Bradford if he has no one to throw it to). If the Redskins trade up I think the Browns may make an effort to grab Trent Richardson as they have two 1st round picks so can get a decent offensive lineman later in the round

The Jags have more pressing issues than WR so i think either Coples or Jonathon Martin will go there.

Here is a link from the Giants forum with game clips of all the big names heading into the draft organised in position. Makes it hell easy to watch game film of any player that will go in the first few rounds .

http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2125497.aspx

I disapprove of the thread title, It should read: Pats wideouts could do with manning up a bit.

They cost us the motherfucking superbowl. So dark right now. Stupid 5ft nothing welker dropping what was potentially the biggest play in the game.

Prediction for next year? Packers to make amends for this season and go all the way. Patriots D to suck even more than they did this year and us get knocked out in the 2nd week of the playoffs after a bye.

Yeah, thread title is pretty lame. Brady didn't lose the game for the Pats. Their D, and all those dropped passes at the end did. Brady actually played better in this game than he did in his first SuperBowl when he won MVP.

Thread title rocks

Brady need to be Manning up and needs to speak for himself and not let his bitch do it for him

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Originally Posted by Zodiac

I disapprove of the thread title, It should read: Pats wideouts could do with manning up a bit.

They cost us the motherfucking superbowl. So dark right now. Stupid 5ft nothing welker dropping what was potentially the biggest play in the game.

Prediction for next year? Packers to make amends for this season and go all the way. Patriots D to suck even more than they did this year and us get knocked out in the 2nd week of the playoffs after a bye.

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Yeah, thread title is pretty lame. Brady didn't lose the game for the Pats. Their D, and all those dropped passes at the end did. Brady actually played better in this game than he did in his first SuperBowl when he won MVP.

Successful troll is successful.

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

Thread title rocks

Manning needs to speak for himself and not let his bitch do it for him

Also, I think you mean Brady.

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Originally Posted by moskate

Here is a link from the Giants forum with game clips of all the big names heading into the draft organised in position. Makes it hell easy to watch game film of any player that will go in the first few rounds .

http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2125497.aspx

I love and hate you all at the same time

I'm going to be watching this for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by Kid Creme

Successful troll is successful.

troll or no troll, still a lame title.

I thought the thread title was a wikileaks reference initially.

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Originally Posted by Vote Quimby

troll or no troll, still a lame title.

Or you could stop crying and just talk about football? Just a thought.

Seems like T.O has finally given up on the notion of playing NFL and has signed with the Allen Wranglers I'd normally feel sorry for anyone else. But he honestly has the shittest attitude.

Time to start some scouting yo. That link Moskate popped up had heaps of good reference video too. Here's my opinion, starting with:

Name: Vontaze Burfict
Position: Inside Linebacker
School: Arizona State University



Pros:
- Good lateral movement.
- Breaks the line.
- Always goes for the ball.
- Chases down runners.
- Aggressive.
- Special teams player.
- Good play reading/anticipation.
- Good zone coverage.
- Good speed.
- Plays to the whistle.
- Good on short yardage and goal line defense.

Cons:
- Gets sucked into deep blocks.
- Can over-pursue through the line getting left behind on run plays.
- Attracts far too many personal fouls.
- 2010 seemed more explosive than 2011.

Overview:
It would be hard to not see this guy go early in the draft. He has all the physical skills required to play ILB and would be an immediate starter. His temperament needs to be coached though as the penalties are going to send any coach mental.

Teams that will probably pursue/draft him:
- Buffalo Bills
- Kansas City Chiefs
- San Diego Chargers

Teams that he would fit best on:
- Pittsburgh Steelers
- Baltimore Ravens (This would be the ideal team for Burfict. Ray Lewis is starting to slow down and there's the perfect locker room for him to understand his place. But so long as the Combine doesn't ruin it for him, I see this kid being gone before the Ravens are on the board).

I dont care for your scouting reports

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I dont care for your scouting reports

What's with your avatar? Seems kind of self-inflicting.

In most of the mocks i've been reading Burfict won't go before the second round because he is a giant tool. However there does seem to be consensus that if someone can tame him then he is a top 10 talent. If you/re a Raven, I'd have my fingers crossed.

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Also, I think you mean Brady.

Lambretta is a cock + I think he missed a few words = you're exactly right

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What's with your avatar? Seems kind of self-inflicting.

If you're going to beat yourself up over something - you may aswell do it right

from a thread in another forum........

someone asked what team he should follow. He is a St George rugby league fan and had shown an interest in the Jets, but basically wasn't feeling it and couldnt bring himself to care about them.

So he was asking people who they follow and why and to give him reasons to follow THEIR teams.

I decided that wasn't the right logic and posted the following.....

Don't look at who you want to support - look at who you don't want to support and use the process of elimination

Don't follow the Dallas Cowboys - that's like choosing to support Manchester United. People that follow Dallas have no imagination and would probably f**k a chick no matter how annoying her personality just because she has big tits. People who find out will just laugh at you.

New York Jets - 50 years of failure. In 50 years the Jets have one 1 Super Bowl and 4 divisional titles. Two of those divisional titles and the Super Bowl came in the first two years. Since the leagues actually merged the Jets have won two divisional titles. Out of four teams in fifty years! If you want to suck this bad get a job in the porn industry. (The Jets are my team btw - it's a life of complete disappointment - don't do it to yourself)

Denver Broncos - Unless you're a f**king Jesus freak - stay away from Tim CantThrow and his mountain ponies. Oh and they wear Orange - you might as well follow Blackpool or Luton f**king Town in English football.

Miami Dolphins - They're the glamour team of the 80's and about as interesting as Don Johnsons career after he left Miami Vice. They try and invent new ways of playing without the quarterback, because like the Jets they cant f**king find one. Their colours are some awful 70's idea of what will be cool in the future and plainly isnt. They're also part owned by Serena Williams which means if you ever go there you might run into her mother. I'd run a f**king mile.

Chicago Bears - Chicago used to be a good team, and in all honesty they were actually more annoying when they were. But these days they've resigned themselves to sucking Green Bays c**k in the hope that they might finish second in their division and get a wild card spot. They used to be all defence which is amusing as their offence plays like one.

Jacksonville Jaguars - Teal appeal anyone? Yes, if supporting a team that plays in Aqua and doesnt actually want to play in the City its based in sounds interesting then you need to get out more. They're thinking of moving to Los Angeles, because that worked so f**king well for the Raiders and the Rams didn't it? Oh the association to crap British cars that break down all the time and then get sold off to the Indians is really ironic. Just dont ask an American why - not only will they think you're talking about Sitting Bull and start screaming how Custer was really ok - they wont understand the irony bit.

Detroit Lions - well you've already noticed how they play in light blue and the other bit is they're crap and they've never won anything. Does that remind you of anyone? Yep, the Cronulla of the NFL. I actually WOULD choose the Lions myself, but then I like choosing f**king godawful teams that fail - but you're a Dragons fan. Failing for ages and then having two years of glory is more your speed.

Cleveland Browns - imagine the New York Jets and the Detroit Lions having a love child - then imagine it was 100 times worse and covered in shit. That's what the Cleveland Browns one day hope to become, because they're way worse than that. Cleveland were one of the big teams in the 60's and then when the NFL and the AFL merged they began to smell and continued until the 90's when the league booted them. The franchise was given to Baltimore (Ravens, not Colts) who went on won a Super Bowl straight away and then have continued to be successful ever since. The Browns won an expansion spot a few years later and gained re-entry to the NFL. They've been appalling ever since they came back and the NFL have regretted allowing them back in ever since. (I love this team personally because they're so bad they make the Jets look capable)

Carolina Panthers - OK, if you like supporting teams named after girls you could do worse than Carolina. You could choose the Sharonville girls or the Wendysburgh Whores. They have a promising quarterback, but once again they do wear blue. I smell Cronulla. PS. The Panthers have never won anything either.

Bengals - This team are often filled with promise and they have never delivered on it. They're basically the New York Jets with a funky helmet and no Super Bowl history to their name. Being in the same division as the Steelers and the Ravens means this will never change. Cincinnatti is also in Ohio, the same State as Cleveland. People who live in Cleveland often support the Steelers, an interstate team, because they're own teams are so bad. NSW might be bad and might lose to QLD, but you have hope they will turn it around. The people of Ohio dont and neither should you.

Steelers - The Steelers are basically Dallas for working class people. They're the Collingwood or 1930's Souths of the NFL. If you are stupid, ugly, unimaginative and poor then this is your team. They're always in the Finals mainly because they get a leg up with two out of four teams in their division being f**king awful. Lets face it - they could be crap and still make the post season with the drivel they have to play each year. Four f**king wins guaranteed before the season kicks off. They play ugly, defensive football and get through games by getting the ball back and kicking field goals. The sporting equivalent of watching paint dry. Being a Saints fan you might actually like that after 3 years with Bennett, but if you want some flamoyancy - look elsewhere.

Oak, no Los, no Oakland Raiders

Do you settle an arguement by
a) talking it through and finding middle ground?
b) sueing the bastard

Your idea of a break is
a) a vacation is Malibu
b) getting locked up in prison or mental hospital

The music you like is
a) a range of different things really
b) gangster rap, or death metal

You dress up for Halloween
a) on the 31st of October
b) every f**king day of the year man

You need to buy a white shirt for work: do you
a) buy a nice Egyptian cotton one to impress your boss / the ladies
b) stand in your local supermarket screaming "you got these f**king things in black?"

If you answered mostly a's, congratulations, you're a member of the human race (possibly), if you answered mostly b's you're a Raiders fan.

Supporting the Raiders is the same as falling in love with a heroin addicted chick, covered head to toe in tattoos and piercings. Sure, she'll let you and your mates fulfill every sexual fantasy in exchange for some smack, but in the end she'll f**k off with your life savings, on your treasured Harley with a 20 stone dude called Rock, who's favourite past time is eating babies.

Bufallo Bills - the only team that plays in New York State (Giants and Jets both play in Jersey) and if they were another 5 metres to the North they'd be in Canada. The rest of the US wishes they f**king well were. Their claim to fame? Making 4 Super Bowls in a row and losing the f**king lot. Oh and you can see Niagara Falls from the blimp when it's flying over the stadium. The falls kinda symbolises the Bills seasons recently and probably well into the future.

San Diego Chargers - The best of a bad bunch in their division but thats about it. The Chargers are lumped in with the Broncos, Raiders and Chiefs and as such they often win their division by default. Supporting this lot is like being married to a frigid supermodel. All day she looks hot as hell and you spend your day fantasising about what you're going to do with her at the end of the day - then it comes and she flinches at your touch, sleeps in another bedroom and leaves you frustratedly watching videos of other women. Oh you want to leave her, but you cant. You'll never grab anyone this pretty again, but deep down you know you're doomed to misery.

Washington Redskins - The Redskins used to play in a dump of stadium in a dump of a suburb with a fine football team. Now they play in a fine stadium, next to a dump of a suburb with a dump of a team. The last time this lot were relevant, Madonna was still sort of fit and Michael Jackson was still sort of black. If you wake up tomorrow and suddenly think "yeah, Cold Chisel are a rocking new band and Fosters is the best beer in the World" then the Redskins are your team.

Seattle Seahawks - The only decent thing to come from Seattle were Nirvana and Kurt Cobain shot himself for a reason. Yep, as a Seahawks season ticket holder, he realised that eating bullets was a more productive past time.

Philadelphia Eagles - This team are one of the real powerhouses in the NFL both in terms of tradition and in terms of their current expectations. This team should be up there with the Cowboys, Patriots, 49ers & Steelers as a team with the most Super Bowls to their name. They have exactly zero. Because of this, their over expecting and highly demanding fans are among the most disgraceful in the league at turning on their next percived reason they're not winning Super Bowls. I wouldnt mind, but Eagles fans talk about people in their team as if they're god one week and then they drag them into an alley and beat them to death the next. Schizophrenic nut jobs the lot of them. Funny thing is - most the time they're right. No they're not. Yes they f**king are...... errr don't do it to yourself.

Minnesota Vikings - they play in f**king purple. Do you need another reason to give them a wide berth? Well, they've lost in four different super bowls to four different teams and the last of those was 1976. The last time they were relevant, Artie Beetson was captaining Australia. Oh, Prince comes from Minneapolis and he's a midget with a squeaky voice who wears purple and thinks he's a sex machine, when he's just an ugly freak. They f**king deserve each other.

Arizona Cardinals - Until the last decade the Cardinals were the also rans in their division every single year. Firstly they lived in St Louis where they were known as the St Louis number twos. A reference to the fact they played second fiddle to the St Loius Cardinals baseball team, they only ever won two games each season and errrrr..... well the obvious one. Then they decided to move to Pheonix Arizona - a City so bereft of personality it makes Campbelltown look like a global metropolis. I've been to Pheonix and I spent 4 hours in the waiting room at the airport because it shit on what the rest of the city had to offer. Then suddenly in the 2000's the Cardinals came good and were awesome and then they lost in a Super Bowl and went back to utter shiteness. The South will rise before this mob do. Dont fall into the trap of thinking because they wear red and white and they are based in Tempe, (Pheonix, Arizona) that you've found a connection to St George. Down that path true misery lies.

New York Giants - I'm a Jets fan. Do you seriously think I've got a decent word to say about the Giants. They play in red white and blue. My family in American support them and I should have chosen them and didnt. I'm so bitter about my own stupidity that my dislike of the Giants grows daily. If you do follow them, you've chosen Americas version of the Roosters. If that doesnt put you off, nothing will!

Right, I've managed to cut out a whole load of shit from your life and it's time to take stock and see who is left in the AFC

Houston Texans - a new team that have been rubbish since inception, but this year they finally broke through. Watch this video, I reckon this is enough to warrant supporting them. JJ Watt, an offensive lineman rookie, intercepts and runs in for a Touchdown. What a play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPMPr7bAMFw They are a team going places.

Indianpolis Colts - They might have been an absolute pile of shite this year, but usually the Colts are a powerhouse. They're usually good enough to be in with a chance, and coming last this year means they'll probably pick up Andrew Luck and if he's anywhere near as good as people say the Colts will be back to their winning ways sooner rather than later.

Tennessee Titans - Elvis came from Tennessee. Do you need another reason? OK, so they were crap when they were the Oilers, but the move from Houston did them some good. They also have three good years and 10 bad ones, so being a Dragons fan you'll be able to relate. But they're an outside chance here.

Kansas City Chiefs - I'm joking - they play in red and white, the same as the Dragons, but they're f**king rubbish.

Right - the NFC standouts left are

New Orleans Saints - Like your team they share a name. That's about it, but they're an attacking side with Brees there and are a joy to watch. They've won a Super Bowl and seem to be a team on the rise. A definate candidate

Green Bay - If this were 1988 I'd say "yeah man Packers, they're great to watch in their stoushes with the Bears" - but years of success really just make this team way too obvious to support. Sure they are a dynamic team with a great balance on offence and defence and if you support them they'll repay you in spades. But their fans are fat arsed cheese eaters and they're a "c**k" team. As in nearly every merkin seems to love them! if you dont mind following the herd, go for it. But I reckon there are more original choices out there.

Atlanta Falcons - Personally I really like the Falcons. Maybe it was that great side a couple of years back that was ranked #1 in the NFC and then lost out to the Packers. Maybe it was the way the team re-built itself post Vick and didnt try to sign him back. That was classy. Maybe its the symbol or the uniform or maybe something else, but I like this team. Sure they havent won a Super Bowl, but they arent exactly the oldest team in the comp. They wear red and they are one of the stronger teams in their division - if I were picking an NFC team today they'd be on my short list.

Tampa Bay - In the 80's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the laughing stock of the league. Not only did they wear the ugliest uniforms in the league and have the gayest logo, not gay as in crap, gay as in "I want to push my willy up your bottom", but they couldnt even win games. Suprising really as the opposition were often laughing so hard they could barely throw the ball or make a tackle. Even the people who lived in Tampa and went to watch the team (out of desperation of there being nothing else to do in Tampa) didn't want to play for them. A top draft pick from Tampa prayed to God not to be picked by them in the draft ..... and he supported the f**king team. That's how utterly shite they were.

Here is a bobble hat (not a Beanie, cos it's got a bobble that's as gay as the design) in the throwback colours



Yep - f**king gay.

But around the year 2000 something happened. They changed their logo and their colours.



Now they look like this



So they had an image makeover, but more than that they had an on field make over too. Suddenly winning 3 games a year was not acceptable. They started winning lots. They even won a Super Bowl in 2002 - but the best reason to support the Bucs is that they have a pirate ship in their stadium. Yep, I'm not kidding. How f**king cool would it be to watch a game of NFL standing on a pirate ship?

Here it is



If that hasn't convinced you then I don't know what will?

Finally, lets cast our eyes over the San Francisco 49'ers - in the 80's this was the team that made me love NFL. Sure the Raiders got me interested, but the Niners made me love it. Montana, Rice, errrr Rice and Montana and dont forget Montana and Rice. Yeah, ok it was fairly predictable - but f**k me they were effective. 5 Super Bowl wins in 13 years. Thats domination baby. Had I been typing this in 1985 I'd be saying "yeah support my team, they're awesome". However, the problem with supporting a successful team is the downside of all the other unimaginative bandwagon merkins jumping on board. Supporting the 49'ers became similar to supporting Green Bay, Dallas or the f**king New England Patriots. But it's been almost 20 years since their last win and during that time they've had more f**king coaches than the Greyhound company. The bandwagoners have gone and only the hardcore fans remain. The Niners are a good team and they're getting better. They have a great coach and I reckon real success is just around the corner. Their offensive line is killer and their quarterback has enough about him to really get things done. If he gets some super competent wides to throw at, this team will be really dangerous. Their defence isnt just good, it's violent. 10 out of 16 running backs who started games against the Niners this season left the field due to injury and most were unable to return. If that wont win you games, nothing will. A great history, a great future and dashings of violence to keep things interesting. What the f**k isnt there to love? Oh and they play in Red too. If I had to nominate just one side for you, I reckon the Niners would be it. But I've given you a range - now the choice is yours.

Oh for a list of who won what when - check this link and website

http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet.../superbowl.htm

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Originally Posted by Zodiac

I dont care for your scouting reports

Oh, and on another note: Eat a dick. We follow a sport with the longest offseason going around, and if you expect this thread to be nothing but regurgitated links that anyone can find by clicking on NFL.com then you may as well not even bother opening it. You don't hear me having a cry every time you think the rest of us care about how your multi panned out for you. So suck it up, Princess. Or just hide the comments.

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

Miami Dolphins - They're the glamour team of the 80's and about as interesting as Don Johnsons career after he left Miami Vice.

Fucking

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

Then suddenly in the 2000's the Cardinals came good and were awesome and then they lost in a Super Bowl and went back to utter shiteness.

In fairness, that year they were widely seen as one of the worst regular season teams to ever make the SB

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

So they had an image makeover, but more than that they had an on field make over too. Suddenly winning 3 games a year was not acceptable. They started winning lots. They even won a Super Bowl in 2002 - but the best reason to support the Bucs is that they have a pirate ship in their stadium. Yep, I'm not kidding. How f**king cool would it be to watch a game of NFL standing on a pirate ship?

Let's be honest though. The Buccs were fucking shite this season.

I reckon a good team to get on this year will be either Houston or Cincinnati.

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Let's be honest though. The Buccs were fucking shite this season.

I reckon a good team to get on this year will be either Houston or Cincinnati.

Yeah nah. Houston was one of my tips from the AFC
The Bengals are always fucking rubbish and they always will be

You could give those twats Brady (with Rogers as back up), Welker, Greg Jennings, Chris Johnson, RUN DMC, Ray Lewis, Darelle Revis and 20 other pro bowlers and they'd still fuck it up.

Name: Luke Kuechly
Position: Inside Linebacker
School: Boston College



Pros:
- Natural athlete.
- Does not get absorbed into blocks.
- Fast.
- Good play reading/anticipation.
- Special teams player.
- Good footing.
- Light feet.
- Reads QB.
- Good against the pass.

Cons:
- Can miss tackles on faster players.
- Slightly undersized.

Overview:
This kid is the complete package and is without doubt an instant starter. I could see Kuechly initially struggling on a poor defense but having a huge impact on one that is already stable. He might not have as many impressive plays as Burfict but he's also a lot less likely to bust.

Teams that will probably pursue/draft him:
- Buffalo Bills
- Kansas City Chiefs
- San Diego Chargers

Team that he will fit best on:
- Kansas City Chiefs (Without doubt. While their needs are still on the defensive side, they are far more complete than Buffalo. If the Bills pass on him, I think the Chiefs won't hesitate to pull the trigger).

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Originally Posted by Kid Creme

Name: Luke Kuechly
Position: Inside Linebacker
School: Boston College



Pros:
- Natural athlete.
- Does not get absorbed into blocks.
- Fast.
- Good play reading/anticipation.
- Special teams player.
- Good footing.
- Light feet.
- Reads QB.
- Good against the pass.

Cons:
- Can miss tackles on faster players.
- Slightly undersized.

Overview:
This kid is the complete package and is without doubt an instant starter. I could see Kuechly initially struggling on a poor defense but having a huge impact on one that is already stable. He might not have as many impressive plays as Burfict but he's also a lot less likely to bust.

Teams that will probably pursue/draft him:
- Buffalo Bills
- Kansas City Chiefs
- San Diego Chargers

Team that he will fit best on:
- Kansas City Chiefs (Without doubt. While their needs are still on the defensive side, they are far more complete than Buffalo. If the Bills pass on him, I think the Chiefs won't hesitate to pull the trigger).

Do want at the Eagles. Badly. Haven't wanted a player like this for a while.

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What's with your avatar? Seems kind of self-inflicting.

I wanted to feel what its like to be a niners fan.

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Do want at the Eagles. Badly. Haven't wanted a player like this for a while.

I initially thought either of these two guys would be good for them, but isn't Philly's need more at outside linebacker?

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I initially thought either of these two guys would be good for them, but isn't Philly's need more at outside linebacker?

We could have either. We have a terrible lb corp. Most of them are rookies and are later round picks. I've read the knows on this guy and it's mostly that he isn't a player that will make explosive plays but he is a great tackler and the most sound prospect in the entire draft other than Luck. This should suit the Eagles because the thing that cost us this year (as well as fumbles obviously) was the fact that they couldn't make tackles, this guy is by far the best tackler in the nation at college level and would start straight away for us. Our front four make the explosive plays and get after the qb so we just need a strong tackler in at lb instead of the clowns we have right now.

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We could have either. We have a terrible lb corp. Most of them are rookies and are later round picks. I've read the knows on this guy and it's mostly that he isn't a player that will make explosive plays but he is a great tackler and the most sound prospect in the entire draft other than Luck. This should suit the Eagles because the thing that cost us this year (as well as fumbles obviously) was the fact that they couldn't make tackles, this guy is by far the best tackler in the nation at college level and would start straight away for us. Our front four make the explosive plays and get after the qb so we just need a strong tackler in at lb instead of the clowns we have right now.

Yeah, fair enough. I knew you guys needed something on the edges but didn't realise ILB was a need as well (though it seems kind of obvious, now you mention it). It's highly doubtful he'll be around by Philly's pick though and I don't see the Eagles trading up for him either. I think there's a lot of value in this class though. I think a lot of teams will be getting good picks from the first few rounds.

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Yeah, fair enough. I knew you guys needed something on the edges but didn't realise ILB was a need as well (though it seems kind of obvious, now you mention it). It's highly doubtful he'll be around by Philly's pick though and I don't see the Eagles trading up for him either. I think there's a lot of value in this class though. I think a lot of teams will be getting good picks from the first few rounds.

Yeah I mean we have a few needs obviously as do most teams. If Desean is let go then pick 15 will probably be used on a wr.

Yeah I'd imagine if any one of Floyd, Jeffrey or Wright are available then the Eagles will jump on them at receiver rather than a LB. D-Jax appears to be a big loss (despite the fact he was largely shit this year).

I'd see that as a waste of a pick tbh. There will be options in free agency, and Vincent Jackson would definitely be interested in a team with as much potential as the Eagles. Losing one young receiver just to replace him with another seems like a colossal waste of time. I'm 90% certain their first pick will be on D.

Edit: Or perhaps at tackle.

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Originally Posted by Kid Creme

I'd see that as a waste of a pick tbh. There will be options in free agency, and Vincent Jackson would definitely be interested in a team with as much potential as the Eagles. Losing one young receiver just to replace him with another seems like a colossal waste of time. I'm 90% certain their first pick will be on D.

Edit: Or perhaps at tackle.

Can definately see where you're coming from, I guess alot will just come down to free agency. If they let Jackson go & don't pick up a number 1 receiver in FA then their stocks are very low (after Maclin) & it will be a massive need.

LB though if they pick up a decent receiver & Kuechly would be a great addition

Would be interesting to know what people think the team they support needs in the upcoming draft. I'll attempt to kick things off with the Giants

Giants definately need help at LB as there isn't really alot of depth at the position & our existing ones aren't that good. If Burfict were available here, I'd imagine they will jump on him though its hard to see him falling quite this far. Someone liike Donta Hightower would be a decent pickup too
A later round CB pickup would be good too as a few players are coming off contract. Cliff Harris seems to be getting alot of love but is another player with character issues apparently

If Brandon Jacobs walks, then somone like Lamar Miller would be great in the second round if he fell that far.

TE should prolly be addressed to with all the injuries we had there this year. Dwayne Allen is an outstanding prospect & we could get him at the end of the first if both Burlict & Hightower were taken but it would be a waste of a 1st round pick.

apparently the superbowl ratings were pretty good, sweet news
http://nfldownunder.com/news/espn-au...uper-bowl-xlvi

i admit i always hope one of the games being shown here is a tampa bay home game cause of the pirate ship

how certain is everyone that desean jackson is going to leave/be traded? he is a young explosive player that had an ordinary season after no preparations and the contract distraction. every chance he will come good again next season if the off field stuff gets sorted isn't there? the whole team was pretty average, it's not like his play stood out that much.
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Would be interesting to know what people think the team they support needs in the upcoming draft. I'll attempt to kick things off with the Giants

Giants definately need help at LB as there isn't really alot of depth at the position & our existing ones aren't that good. If Burfict were available here, I'd imagine they will jump on him though its hard to see him falling quite this far. Someone liike Donta Hightower would be a decent pickup too
A later round CB pickup would be good too as a few players are coming off contract. Cliff Harris seems to be getting alot of love but is another player with character issues apparently

If Brandon Jacobs walks, then somone like Lamar Miller would be great in the second round if he fell that far.

TE should prolly be addressed to with all the injuries we had there this year. Dwayne Allen is an outstanding prospect & we could get him at the end of the first if both Burlict & Hightower were taken but it would be a waste of a 1st round pick.

I always presumed you were a Falcons fan Congratulations are in order for Sunday then!

I think there will be opportunities to pick up quality TE's at the end of the 2nd.

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apparently the superbowl ratings were pretty good, sweet news
http://nfldownunder.com/news/espn-au...uper-bowl-xlvi

i admit i always hope one of the games being shown here is a tampa bay home game cause of the pirate ship

how certain is everyone that desean jackson is going to leave/be traded? he is a young explosive player that had an ordinary season after no preparations and the contract distraction. every chance he will come good again next season if the off field stuff gets sorted isn't there? the whole team was pretty average, it's not like his play stood out that much.
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I think it's about 75% leaning towards not returning. He will be asking for big money, and while he does attract double coverage, I can't see him getting what he wants after the way things went off the field last season. I think Andy likes him though, so perhaps he will try keep him. I just thought it was really poor when he held that interview with a guy who was clearly close to DeSean and asked him very biased questions to make him appear as though he were a humble victim.

Nonetheless, I think he does actually deserve big money, I just happen to think there's a team out there who's willing to pay him more. Funnily enough, I actually wouldn't mind him at SF. Him and Crabtree might not be the best mix, but I know he'd play for Harbaugh.



As for team needs. The 9ers need a WR. Crabtree is getting a lot better, but he is essentially a bust. That might be a big call, but he was an absolutely ridiculous college player (to put it into perspective, he won about 3 times as many accolades as Megatron). We need a real play-maker that Alex Smith can throw to. Vernon Davis will be even more explosive when we have another wide threat who can get open. We could also use another corner and perhaps a safety depending on what happens with Dashon Goldson.

Pats need tackles and linebackers bad.

and new wideouts.

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how certain is everyone that desean jackson is going to leave/be traded? he is a young explosive player that had an ordinary season after no preparations and the contract distraction. every chance he will come good again next season if the off field stuff gets sorted isn't there? the whole team was pretty average, it's not like his play stood out that much.
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I have heard conflicting things about the Jackson situation. Lately I have been hearing rumours that they are going to put the franchis tag on him this coming season so will have to wait and see. There is no doubt he is a good player that deserves a pay rise but I think he wants to be one of the highest paid recievers in the league and I don't think he has earnt that. I'd like to keep if possible, drafting another wr would just set as back even more. The team has been put together to contend straight away so we will need as many fully developed players as possible imo.

Lots of free agent talk lately obviously with Manning & Flynn & a few others like DeSean Jackson have been mentioned. Who else do people think will likely move on. Someone like Marques Colston from the Saints is a decent bet i think given they have to wrap up both Brees & Carl Nicks this off season. If Manning goes as is currently expected by all the talk, I'd imagine Indy will have a hard time holing on to both Garcon & Reggie Wayne as their production dropped dramatically this year obviously.

Peyton Hillis likely to leave the Browns? If so do they then grab Richardson in the draft if RG3 is off the board. Brandon Lloyd is apparently a lock to join Josh McDaniels at NE & would provide them with that deep play threat they need to really spread defences & cause more damage then they currently do. Anyone else????

I'd love it if Lloyd came over, Branch has been a flop and hopefully having a legitimate deep threat that should worry the opposition would draw some of the double coverage away from Hernandez & Gronk.

Yeah Branch is running on old legs, Lloyd for the right price would be a significant upgrade. I reckon Hernandez is gonna have a huge year next year