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Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies
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http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/ml/ocean/sst/anom_anim.html
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I'm in totally the wrong industry in Tassie, if we get a +3C rise like the Arctic has seen you wont be buying salmon in the future.
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I don't want to be 'that guy' but does this in some way relate to that massive fuckoff hurricane that just happened

I'm not exactly a science guy

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El Nino incoming.

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I don't want to be 'that guy' but does this in some way relate to that massive fuckoff hurricane that just happened

I'm not exactly a science guy

:science:

It's very difficult for anyone to say global warming caused Sandy. Sandy was an extratropical cyclone that joined up with two other bad weather systems.

But what you can say is, this is consistent with what is expected to happen, and it's happening more often. There is a lot of warm water in the zone. And warm water evaporates and causes bad weather. Sea level rise will mean an increase in storm surges like this one, which was the biggest storm surge ever. The thing about climate change is we have a level of resilience to the patterns of storm activity we are used to. We don't have the resilience to the pattern of storm activity which is expected.
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El Nino incoming.

yes it's going to be an awesome summer on the eastern seaboard, but watch out for bushfires because the fire load is massive.
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I'm in totally the wrong industry in Tassie, if we get a +3C rise like the Arctic has seen you wont be buying salmon in the future.

Your wild fisheries are already changing.
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El Nino incoming.

No it's off actually, average conditions are now expected
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I don't want to be 'that guy' but does this in some way relate to that massive fuckoff hurricane that just happened

What CG said, and I think this is just such an event that the American people (and others still in denial) needed to crystallize in their minds that climate change is real, and that action is required hey pronto.
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Given the religious views of most American's I'm sure we'll have someone blaming it on God punishing them for having a Democrat (who is also not Caucasian - well half not Caucasian) as President.
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Your wild fisheries are already changing.

Yep, catching Yellowtail kingfish in the Derwent is just insane.
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Sweet I just had a job interview for a position in Geelong. Will be heaps nicer to surf down there if the water gets warmer.
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Given the religious views of most American's I'm sure we'll have someone blaming it on God punishing them for having a Democrat (who is also not Caucasian - well half not Caucasian) as President.

No, this guy has been told by God it's punishment of abortion and gay marriage laws.
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It's very difficult for anyone to say global warming caused Sandy. Sandy was an extratropical cyclone that joined up with two other bad weather systems.

But what you can say is, this is consistent with what is expected to happen, and it's happening more often. There is a lot of warm water in the zone. And warm water evaporates and causes bad weather. Sea level rise will mean an increase in storm surges like this one, which was the biggest storm surge ever. The thing about climate change is we have a level of resilience to the patterns of storm activity we are used to. We don't have the resilience to the pattern of storm activity which is expected.

there was an article in the SMH yesterday (i think) that linked it to the Arctic ice melt this year bringing colder waters much further south and potentially blocking the storm from staying over sea. It was pretty light on with detail though.

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The Atlantic Ocean was measured about five degrees Fahrenheit hotter than usual this fall and the flooding unleashed by Sandy is especially destructive because global warming has caused sea levels in the New York region to rise by one foot over the past century.

It's something we're going to see a lot more of as sea temperatures and levels rise.

http://storify.com/insideclimate/cli...urricane-sandy
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there was an article in the SMH yesterday (i think) that linked it to the Arctic ice melt this year bringing colder waters much further south and potentially blocking the storm from staying over sea. It was pretty light on with detail though.

I think what the article was talking about in terms of blocking, was a blocking high, the same type of thing we get when we have a blocking high over Australia and the cold fronts pass low over the continent.

The article also touches on arctic amplification, which includes adding lots of warmer water into northern oceans and also a reduction in albedo (reflection).

Everything points to Sandy being climate change related. But you can't say definitely it was because it is possible without climate change. However, in my view policy makers and also the private sector would be simply stupid if they didn't act like this is the new normal.

Meanwhile I was at a briefing on the upcoming Doha COP 18 negotiations yesterday and there is so much to negotiate on I just can't see multilaterally agreed targets being resolved. The Australian Government hasn't even indicated it will ratify the second commitment period yet.

The good news that has come out recently at Partnership for Market Readiness meetings I attended in Sydney last week is that the number of countries introducing market mitigation mechanisms is rapidly increasing. China has announced it will introduce a national scheme which is incredible news.
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The Atlantic Ocean was measured about five degrees Fahrenheit hotter than usual this fall and the flooding unleashed by Sandy is especially destructive because global warming has caused sea levels in the New York region to rise by one foot over the past century.

It's something we're going to see a lot more of as sea temperatures and levels rise.

http://storify.com/insideclimate/cli...urricane-sandy

If you check my link at the top you can see an animation of that. That is actually what this thread is about.
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