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Originally Posted by RunningWithScissors

python is a pretty good one especially if you don't have much programming experience in general - easy to learn and at the end of it you can get a job working for big eddie

C++ is p. cool but its probably better done in Visual C++ (or the full Visual Studio) rather than just using np++, I think there's an "express" edition of Visual C++ which pretty much does everything and is free
alternately do your C++ in Code::Blocks with mingw if you're a big fat faggot freetard

Good shit Sherlock. Python it is. One of the guys at work is starting to learn Python next week too actually.

eddie, I will be your ~python warlock~ for a small price

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Originally Posted by big eddie

Well there is that too.

Bede iirc you've just started a wintel sysadmin type role right? Unless you have specific plans to become a programmer I'd leave c++ and the like alone for the moment. Something that will have more tangible benefits initially and make you better at your job is powershell scripting.

Technically it's support for a small IT reseller, but we do all the system admin stuff on top. My offtime is actually better spent learning Sonicwall configuration backtoback if I was serious about my job, but I'd prefer to learn a language just to get my mind working in a different way than it has been the past few years.

If you are seriously getting into the devops space, and want to actually code, there are some things

(1) Learning C# or C++ is pointless, because the big end of town where these languages are used the most, still look for degrees

(2) C is still the best, most powerful, most flexible language you can learn. It, unfortunately, has a bit of a learning curve and punishes you severely for bad habits and mistakes.

(3) Most of the frameworks that stick their tentacles into other systems with a sysadmin focus (ie. Icinga, Nagios, Zabbix, ControlTier) tend to favour (or at least make it easier) to work with shell script, perl (or ruby with perl extensions, or ruby (gems), or java (possibly built as a standalone jar based off ruby), or C.

(4) It would be worth your time and energy learning how to ANT

(5) Ignore everything above

Splunk is down with python

yeah, but splunk tends towards serious $$$ (at least for the professional versions, as installed by big eddie)

Like an F18 Bro!

Is the Four Points in Darling Harbour any good?

no. where do you have to work?

actually, it is near the Pumphouse.

But still, Darling Harbour sucks. Stay at the Kirketon. Trust me on this. http://www.eaudevie.com.au/Sydney/

Over the bridge this week, but I don't want to stay in North Sydney really.

Definitely stay in Darlinghurst (Kirketon or Diamante). Easy Taxi access out the front, straight onto the harbour tunnel, kings cross station 5 minute walk to train, excellent breakfast options at the cafes outside, lots of good places to go at night either locally or a short walk up to Surry Hills. Kings Cross late night strolls for the lols. 20 minute walk to the local taphouse sydney version. Superb speakeasy out the back, free wifi, and funky funky hotel.

I'll keep it in mind - although, I wont be boozing on this trip - in the drivers seat for this one, need to bring my A-game.

My A game and boozing it up every night are inextricably linked

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Originally Posted by RunningWithScissors

"I posted something stupid and those mean old moderators overreacted by doing their job I hate them I hate them I hate them "

Who said that?

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Originally Posted by big eddie

Over the bridge this week, but I don't want to stay in North Sydney really.

I work in North Sydney and don't like going over the bridge.

cool

Am i late to the lulz?

no

that's awesome

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Originally Posted by RunningWithScissors

cool

the king of the north!

Checked out a wall of posters on the way home from work...double take...WTF!

lol that owns

yeah thanks now you've ruined the illusion for the rest of us with your ~common knowledge~

hey yeah why don't u go tell a bunch of kids that santa is dead because it's such ~common knowledge~ shit dude

hit lever to open door



~common knowledge~

Spoiler:

Happy The Easter Bunny Got Run Over Kids!

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Originally Posted by dbb618

(2) C is still the best, most powerful, most flexible language you can learn. It, unfortunately, has a bit of a learning curve and punishes you severely for bad habits and mistakes.

I got up to stepping through multi-dimensional arrays in my C course ..started doing my head in, and switched course to Visual basic.

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Mistaaaaaaaaaaaake! - YouTube

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might have remember how to code a visual basic GUI if it weren't for loldrugs

what did you do when you got up to stepping through multi-dimensional arrays in visual basic

What the hell is this "Highlight" feature on FB shit?

Apparently you can pay $1.50 to have your post at the top of everyones feed

IT'S FOR IMPORTANT POSTS YOU GUYS

lol at mini transactions because your IPO sucks

btw I was jk before rws

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Originally Posted by RunningWithScissors

what did you do when you got up to stepping through multi-dimensional arrays in visual basic

Wrote a trace-r script using a gui to track an offenders home address via his Telephone GPS IP.

Then I logged onto the hacker service, IRC, and spoke in leet speak to their leader, in a private room called hash eyeteeem

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Originally Posted by RunningWithScissors

what did you do when you got up to stepping through multi-dimensional arrays in visual basic

There was nothing to do with multi dimension arrays in the VB course iirc, mostly loads of interaction with Access databases. The major project at course end was to create some kind of shitty accounts software package.

I should brush up on VB and start creating some fully hectic apps for WP7

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Originally Posted by diarx

WP7

ew

you should make a clone of Oregon Trail but instead of Oregon you're moving closer to the exchange
at the start you must choose how much to spend on different starting equipment, ie. number of WoW accounts etc
and instead of dysentery you die of diabetes

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Originally Posted by B_e_de

btw I was jk before rws

my followup-but-then-deleted post was about not wanting to ~ruin the magic~

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Originally Posted by diarx

I should brush up on VB and start creating some fully hectic apps for WP7

nothing screams "I'm an amateur" more than seeing code written in VB

Right tools for the job etc.

sure, but the right tool is never an Access database - if doesn't even support transaction logging. It's the "she'll be right mate" database where you don't care if you lose everything ...

the right tool is sharting yourself to scare your attacker off

I had a dream last night that my GF cheated on me...with a chick.

It was hot, but it still hurt. In my pants.

I had a dream that I went to an overpass I used to live near, and at the top of the bridge it dropped straight down Escher-Inception style, then I realised there was an ocean down there and we were there because my car had sunk and we had to drag it out with a big red rope, because I needed the car back because someone was buying my van from me at a massive profit, but we couldn't get my car out of the ocean. Then there was a garage sale at my dad's or something and there were these horrific half-ape people there, and I was raging because they were breeding contrary to the laws of nature but everyone else seemed to be drinking tea and avoiding the issue.

Shitloads more happened in mine, too, but I decided to skip to the end.

HINT

I had a dream.

Fuck you people and your interesting subconscious'.

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Originally Posted by Gruso

I had a dream that I went to an overpass I used to live near, and at the top of the bridge it dropped straight down Escher-Inception style, then I realised there was an ocean down there and we were there because my car had sunk and we had to drag it out with a big red rope, because I needed the car back because someone was buying my van from me at a massive profit, but we couldn't get my car out of the ocean. Then there was a garage sale at my dad's or something and there were these horrific half-ape people there, and I was raging because they were breeding contrary to the laws of nature but everyone else seemed to be drinking tea and avoiding the issue.

Any good deals MASSIVE SAVINGS?

No, but there was a motherfucking Magna!

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Originally Posted by B_e_de

Fuck you people and your interesting subconscious'.

You don't want these voices in your head.

Why do they come to me to die?

Why do they come to me to die?

i don't dream anymore....

Weed?

Saying that, though, I've got to the point where I sometimes have mad dreams when I'm ripped. Never used to, and it's not all the time, but when it happens they're fucking awesome.

I was on nicotine patches years ago. Protip: Don't leave those on all night. Take your garden variety bad dream, inject PCP and meth, and you get the idea.

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Originally Posted by ianwil1976

Saying that, though, I've got to the point where I sometimes have mad dreams when I'm ripped. Never used to, and it's not all the time, but when it happens they're fucking awesome.

I think I tend to dream less when baked, but then never really dreamt that much when I'm not either. meh.

I think my favourite dream ever was when I fucked Shannon from Lost in the Gary.

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Originally Posted by Gruso

You don't want these voices in your head.

Why do they come to me to die?

Why do they come to me to die?

Those voices? From your HEAD!? You psycho... Those come from the floorboards, not my head.