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And what is a "signee"? Is it the Australian for "signatory"?

I think there will be a lot of events that run for 4 hours and 59 minutes.
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This sucks, the best thing about Berlin is that everything is still affordable especially going out, I'd hate for this to change.
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Currently all clubs are paying royalties to the Top 40 and what is playlisted on radio in their countries. Whoever controls the radio stations controls who gets royalties. GEMA and other collection agencies around the world know there's no way in hell djs, clubs and producers can get their act together to record all acts playlists so the relevant writers/producers can be paid a performance royalty. Obviously, this would mean all writers/producers/djs would have to sign up with a collection agency so they could be paid these royalties.

As an aside, in the future - Richie Hawtin's twitter.dj app might be just one tool in the fight against all monies collected going to the Top40/radio playlisted artists.

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these licenses are utter crap, we pay fees to APRA to be able to have dj's play music in a club...yet none of the money from these fees goes to the artist that make any of the music that gets played in the club....
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@pomrocks - dont the artists get money from their production? vinyl, cd and mp3? I dont know, im speculating. Then the artists in turn get money from their respective labels?

Its not as if club prices havent gone up in the last decade or so anyway, and add the bar licences to that, they are making a killing.

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@pomrocks - dont the artists get money from their production? vinyl, cd and mp3? I dont know, im speculating. Then the artists in turn get money from their respective labels?

Its not as if club prices havent gone up in the last decade or so anyway, and add the bar licences to that, they are making a killing.

yeah the artist receive money sometimes from their productions, thought its rarely very much

they you have these licensing agencies who collect fees that are supposed to go to the artists.....however
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Wow, this is actually quite saddening.
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Paul and Pomrocks are on the money, none of this money gets redistributed to the artists who make the music played in the clubs, and organisations like GEMA and APRA are woefully out of touch with underground music cultures. The clubs are the places where underground music is cultivated and supported...
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PS. Organisations like APRA, GEMA and RIAA all have the agenda of supporting the major labels and other big business interests, and there's a complete disconnect with independent music culture, which in many ways has been allowed to take off in the digital era. They need to be challenged every step of the way.
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I actually have no idea how these protection rackets like APRA, PPCA, assumedly GEMA are allowed to exist. Surely I could also set up my own one and start charging money under the threat of suing you for not paying your fees too. I really dont understand how the PPCA can have a board made up of reps from the majors and noone else. Such a joke.
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