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Wireless rOOters (no 7800n's club)
So I've 'discovered' recently that the shitty netgear cable wireless router they bundled with my cable connection has a..



..nat table and for the last month or so has been falling over if a linux ISO so much as sneezes at it.

Thinking of investing in a dedicated router and either pairing it with the old surboard sb5101 that I still have from my last place or simply turning off nat and running it through the netgear.

Unfortunately the venerable 7800n is out of the running here as I don't require the ADSL modem part and the extra cash would be best spent on a dual band router.

A short while back I recall databasebimbo618 waxing lyrical over the linksys e4200 virtues true. Is this still the one to beat as far as dual band wireless routers are concerned? Or is there some shiny new fandangled router that bests it?

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1. buy EA4500 2. hook up to your modem 3. grunt like tim the toolman taylor. 4. route
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Does the EA4500 offer any big advantages over the E4200?

Almost been tempted to cheap out and get the E4200 from this fleabay phillipines seller..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Linksys-E...item3a76706154
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i'm not going to say BILLION 7800N because it's not dual band.
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Does the EA4500 offer any big advantages over the E4200?

Almost been tempted to cheap out and get the E4200 from this fleabay phillipines seller..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Linksys-E...item3a76706154

nope! the hardware is exactly the same, however tim the toolman taylor does not do shit half arsed. in fact he does shit two-or-more arsed.

i do know the 4500 is an updated model though (firmware only i guess), but i don't know what it does, don't have one, never even used one vv sorry!
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had a look at a review, apparently yeah, the same hardware but 'app enabled'

sounds kinda cool actually.. tossing up between the ea3500 and ea4500 I think - probably leaning towards the 4500 as it mentions "ideal for - Large, multi-room homes" and its needed to run reliably through 3 stories.
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ea4500 ordered,

Thanks spice!
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ea4500 is fantastic.

Had some reliability problems with crappy netgear being a 3 storey place, but with router and notebook at opposite ends of house (signal going diagonally though two floors and two walls) I'm getting 98% signal strength flat. Pretty impressive considering the best the old netgear could muster with the same distance was 55%. Out of interest the my old 7800n generally hung around the 70%'s, but never dropped out like the netgear did

Biggest improvement though has been with our android mobiles though, they were really struggling on the top level of our place and the main bathroom, but now we're getting full signal strength and no laggyness with general browsing at all.

As for the App Enabled part of the router, I've only installed the 'connect express' remote management app that was on android market.. Basically you can do some nifty stuff reboot router without having to log into the web frontend, see all devices connected, change wifi settings, send guest account details, release/renew ip address, do a remote firmware update etc. Unfortunately for the other apps you need to flash cloudconnect firmware to the router to enable them. No idea why it doesn't come with the standard firmware - will probably hold off til the weekend to have a play around with that.
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Told you ****s that the linksys > billion
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I'll concede that so far.

For the price the 7800n is very decent for what it sets out to achieve though, never had any problems with mine.
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nice one diarx, glad it worked out. i haven't tested any new linksys gear so you are a pretty good guinea pig.

e: btw how much was the ea4500? over here you can pick up a 7800n and a ea4500 for around the same price, but clearly one functionally shits on the other.

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Told you ****s that the linksys > billion

true dat. i will change my tune in the next 'which router' thread
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Got it from arc - $207, $226 inc delivery

http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23...4358&p=product

so yeah, on average around $50 more than a 7800n.
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had the day off today, flashed the cloudconnect firmware - can now understand now why it doesn't come with cloudconnect firmware preinstalled - I believe the router gui/management page is LITERALLY IN THE CLOUD which wouldn't be to everyones tastes (when you attempt to log in with the routers ip it logs into cloudconnect) . Kind of a bad thing as the UI load seems a little laggy (presumably because of US based servers) and the whole experience suffers as a result. I believe you can still manage the router through the PC connect app over ethernet, but too lazy to test that out right now.

There doesn't seem to be many compatible apps available so far either, the few that are there work for either android or ios and not both, or say 'coming soon'.

I guess twonkey video on android has its merits for playing stuff from your mobile on your dlna tv, but you can do that kind of shit with the right android phone/app without this router anyway. I'm not sure if the setup process is easier or not, because honestly I haven't bothered attempting this sort of playback until now.

Can see the potential, but its definitely early days yet.
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Told you ****s that the linksys > billion

I don't think anyone disbelieved you. It's just that there's no point recommending a pure r00ter to people looking for an ADSL modem.

Congrats on the validation though.
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^ when i posted that I immediately thought of that ep when bender was going nuts in binary & wondered if i put what he says into a translator if it actaully said anything in english
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I don't think anyone disbelieved you. It's just that there's no point recommending a pure r00ter to people looking for an ADSL modem.

Congrats on the validation though.

what if you connect a billion 7800n to a linksys ea4500 what would happen omg
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So wait, linksys are good now? My first ever router was a linksys and it was an absolute pos. My family and I tend to have terrible luck with electronics, we also had an absolute lemon of a printer, found out that the entire make was faulty :/

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have been good for as long as I said they were, which was lost in the noise of the overwhelming billion mantra rush
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nah there have been some shit linksys products too.
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I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. My Billion 7300n has given up sending wireless signal, re-flashing firmware & resetting factory defaults didnt change a thing.. It's now basically a wired modem router. All this happened after I unplugged it for 2 weeks while I went on holidays, thinking to save power. Looking on google it appears to be a recurring problem with these modems.

So what now; replace it with a 7800 for $170 or buy an additional wireless router for $60?
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Sounds like the perfect time to buy one of these Linksys routers diarx and dbb are on about. Hang the Billion off it as a modem only, profit.
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Serves you right for being a tight arse for 2 weeks times 15w of power
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can easily get the 7800n for $155 - delivered definitely $170 though

but sif you cbd workers wouldn't just take an extended lunch break and find a yumcha shopfront that stocks it nearby.

I'd splash out for the ea4500, but that's just me. Where wireless is involved, it's better to buy shit right the first time.
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Sounds like the perfect time to buy one of these Linksys routers diarx and dbb are on about. Hang the Billion off it as a modem only, profit.

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Serves you right for being a tight arse for 2 weeks times 15w of power

It was more a case of switching all the powerboards off at the powerpoints, not disconnecting individual devices.
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I hadn't even looked at the prices. If the Linksys option is too rich, I would get the 7800N rather than add a budget router to a half functioning 7300. Especially if you have a tendency to hammer your connection.

Make sure what you're buying is a 7800N, not 7800NL (the lite version that is not NBN ready).

And with that, the non-7800N thread of pure routing became a 7800N recommendation thread. GCP&G, we're done here.
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BILLION 7800N

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The other option is to get the outgoing linksys e4200 @ around $150.. the 7800n wireless output is alright, but it isn't spectacular. It's lacking dual band but for most people that don't live in a crowded apartment block or have to go through too many walls it will do the job. The main reason people buy the 7800n are the configurability, gigabit ethernet, awesome firmware support, solid modem, solid routing, and low price for what you're getting.. the wireless is its only slight weakness - its reliable, just the range could be better and it's a shame it doesn't support dual band.

If your 7300n functions reliably as a plain modem with nat switched off then I'd pick the e4200 over the 7800n. Key word there is reliably of course. The e4200 is practically the same as the ea4500, apart from the app enabled cloud connect type stuff. There is the lesser specced ea3500, but apparently has half the memory/processing power of the e4200/ea4500.
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I hadn't even looked at the prices. If the Linksys option is too rich, I would get the 7800N rather than add a budget router to a half functioning 7300. Especially if you have a tendency to hammer your connection.

Make sure what you're buying is a 7800N, not 7800NL (the lite version that is not NBN ready).

And with that, the non-7800N thread of pure routing became a 7800N recommendation thread. GCP&G, we're done here.

I'm pretty sure mine is a 7800nl because I ordered the wrong one, what isn't NBN ready about it? It has IPv6, not sure what else it would need? Gigabit lan?
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An EWAN port.

I bought a 7800NL too. Took me six months to realise
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