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Technics 1200 Alternative
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Stumbled across this on another forum as a highly (questionable) regarded alternative to the 1200: Audio Technica AT-LP120-USB. It looks like the 1200 (apparently same designer was involved), has similar weight, same S-arm, height adjust, track light, etc, but has the following advantage over the Technics:

- Direction switching
- USB and analog
- Built-in pre-amp (no ground wire)
- Dual voltage
- 33-45-78 rpm

A few negatives I've read so far:

- Reviews have shown that the motor is rated slightly higher, HOWEVER, in actual use, sometimes struggles to pickup torque during technique scratches. But hey, I don't scratch so I don't care.
- The RCA's are attached and can only be replaced by opening it up.
- The built-in pre-amp for line level is low quality, HOWEVER, if using these for DVS with timecode, then shouldn't matter as much.

Here's the clincher: they can be had for <AU$300 each. Not sure how they compare to the now-popular Stanton STR-150 and STR8-150 but at half the cost, are definitely an option I think!

Reviews:
http://www.djbooth.net/index/dj-equi...-usb-turntable
http://www.crossfadr.com/2011/08/25/...ntable-review/

Thoughts?

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They sound alright to me, if I didn't have my 1200's and was looking I'd be interested.
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alarm bells always ring when a design is copied that closely......
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This is probably the first positive thing I've read about this..

On another note, we had a sample product come in to work the other day that looked remarkably similar to this. Pretty much dead on except it was different brand (a no name) and it was awful.

Audio Technica probably got it from the same Chinese OEM supplier...

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the stantons are seriously the only way to go if you want something new that doesn't suck ass, they last a long time too, mine are 5 years with no floating or pitch anomolies


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Do they have the torque of the 1200's?
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Do they have the torque of the 1200's?

More. The motor is pretty fucking strong in the ST150s, so much that I've heard scratch folks complain that its sometimes hard to adjust back to the lesser torque of the 1200 after using the stantons.
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The Stanton ST150 are great decks and they do have more torque than the Technics. The design has been copied and bettered in alot of ways over the Technics aswell. I recently had a set to sell off for a DJ as id repaired and customized his Technics.

Ive seen them go second hand on Ebay for around the $350 mark but they are heavier than Technics by about 5 kg and will cost abit for freight if they are not local.
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st-150 are the way to go, soo soo much torque
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Do they have the torque of the 1200's?

Exactly.. there are panasonic decks that look like 1200s.. but the lack of torque is the issue.
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yeah lp120's don't have anywhere near as much torque as the 1200s
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perhaps the lp1240 would be a better comparison
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Exactly.. there are panasonic decks that look like 1200s.. but the lack of torque is the issue.

Technics were made by Panasonic.
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More. The motor is pretty fucking strong in the ST150s, so much that I've heard scratch folks complain that its sometimes hard to adjust back to the lesser torque of the 1200 after using the stantons.

Ok cuz i had a terrible experience 6 or 7 years ago with Stanton decks. Was dj'n at some party and they had Stantons that looked like 1200's (i'm not sure what model they were) and first mix in and i touch the side platter like a 1200 on the track i'm cuing up and the platter slowed down waay too much and took way too long to get back to normal speed. It was the same with both decks. Honestly i was just fethering the side of the platter as light as possible and it would throw my beats out waaay to easily when all i needed was the most gentle of adjustments. Made for a tough set.

Another reason why 1200's are magic to mix on they really are the perfect dj'n turntable but i'll keep an open mind on the subject.
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^ agreed...played on many a deck which claimed to be "direct drive" and some which said they had more torque than the 1200's, but not one of them felt as powerful under finger than the technics did...never found one which felt as responsive and powerful
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or you could learn to ride the pitch and not touch the platter
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or you could learn to ride the pitch and not touch the platter

Exactly. Riiiiiiiiiiiide the pitch and there is no need to touch the platter. You'll also find your mixes to be a lot smoother too
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From my experience, not all decks have pitch controls as responsive to Technics either, so there can be flaws to that theory, too
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best alternative to 1200's would be the stanton st-150 or the str8-150 depending on your preference of tone arm.
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agree^ on second thought I'd go with the stanton 150 series over the lp1240 because it atleast has a proven track record. the audio technica stuff is all relatively new and untested. i remember the first time i played on lp120's they felt okay but i recently played on a friends pair that are just over a year old and they were playable but very weak in comparison to technics 1200s
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Exactly. Riiiiiiiiiiiide the pitch and there is no need to touch the platter. You'll also find your mixes to be a lot smoother too

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Riding the pitch is great and all that but it still doesn't fix a fundamental issue with the turntable. Whether you ride the pitch or not is irrelevant.
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http://www.reloop.com/reloop-rp-8000

I'm convinced.

Looks to be built on the same SuperOEM platform as the ST-150 for one. Also digging a proper extended pitch range: 8 and 16, rather than 8 and 25 or starting at 10.

I think we've got a contender, folks. Looking forward to seeing real pics...not looking forward to the price (£585 by one dude's reckoning).
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Nothing can compare to 1200's/1210's.
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oh the stanton 150's are just more expensive coe they are black, just get the 120's.

same design. not black


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Nothing can compare to 1200's/1210's.

Agreed...though some of the Vestax from years back really weren't that shabby.
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Agreed...though some of the Vestax from years back really weren't that shabby.

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+1 for vestax as a replacement

I have a pair of 16yo Vestax pdx-d3 still going strong.

The current 3000s-II have a adjustable torque dial that allows for 1.5kg to 2.7kg torque, starting torque of around 4.7kg, could be wrong but I think technics are only around the 1.5kg mark, however usually the casing material is the only real let down as they usually use plastic or wood/vinyl combo to save weight, def worth a look.
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