King Unique on the great dance divide: "That’s why we ended up with Guetta"

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“It’s because we just didn’t take people with us.” UK producer King Unique aka Matt Thomas is one of the dyed-in-the-wool names in club production, churning out progressive house and techno for more than a decade, and currently bashing out remixes for the likes of Guy J and Luke Chable at a rate of knots. Last week he shared some insights with ITM about the single most talked about topic in dance music right now: America and the ‘EDM’ movement.

With Electric Daisy Carnival drawing in excess of 100,000 punters to Vegas over the weekend, not long after the scene received a savage rebuke from the most unlikely of places, the Wall Street Journal, Thomas claims the underground side of dance needs to shoulder some responsibility for the gaping canyon that’s opened up between mainstream and specialist club music.

“Right around the time the whole minimal thing happened in 2005, the underground side of things became so specialist, so utterly demanding of people who were into this scene and sound,” Thomas told ITM.

“In a way that wasn’t quite the case before, as you could often occupy more of a middle ground; you could produce a vocal remix of a mainstream act, though it might have been done in a more underground kind of way. It made the culture seem accessible to people.”

Thomas argues the determination of underground dance came at the expense of maintaining a connection with a wider audience. “That’s why we ended up with Guetta, Afriojack and all that shit. It’s because we just didn’t take people with us. We decided we’d be completely underground, and completely cool. It’s created a situation where mass appeal went elsewhere.”

Thomas describes somewhat of a culture shock amongst his producer colleagues in the techno and house ‘underground’, in seeing DJs like Guetta and Tiesto embraced on such a massive scale. “It’s why you’re hearing DJ Sneak bitching on about the Swedish House Mafia. When people feel like their value is being completely sidelined, they start bitching. But ultimately, it’s immaterial; if every single last person in house and techno denounced Guetta tomorrow, that’s a tiny voice compared to the people who think he’s fantastic.”

He describes a situation where underground dance has been “ghettoized” into “just music”, at a time when the industry’s revenue streams are being drawn from a variety of places. “The whole ‘EDM’ thing is showing us we’ve either gotta adapt, or else we’re gonna keep ploughing this increasingly narrow thorough against the greater cultural shift.”

Want to hear more? Have a look at our in-depth feature on dance music in America.

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MongooseFiend

MongooseFiend said on the 13th Jun, 2012

yet another great piece on ITM of late. Top work guys.

Raises an interesting question though - is a middle ground possible? If not, was it ever possible?

How many credible 'underground' artists (god I hate that word) feel like they're missing out because the mainstream end of things has been extremely commercialised?

DJdougmc

DJdougmc said on the 13th Jun, 2012

great article, but due to social media some of these artists have huge numbers of followers on facebook and twitter and thus this gives them enormous power.

Weqster

Weqster said on the 14th Jun, 2012

Think about Guetta as the guy out spruking on the street, trying to get punters through the door. Even though im not sure the underground scene wants to share the dancefloor with these guys, they come through the door anyway to the woo of his autotuned lyrics. Now its upto the underground to draw them further into the world of EDM.

Unfortunately, promoters in australia simply either put on an undeground night of a guetta night (mostly a guetta night). They sconder the opportunity to woo these punters into a more refined genre.

HeavenOnEarth

HeavenOnEarth said on the 24th Jun, 2012

Yes, absolut great article. I actually found this through a Sneak interview recently, and the information is just flooding.