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Formula 1 2012: The Year of the Sick ****s (and a lil bit of 2011)

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so, who's going to pull off a successful 2 stop? sauber? lotus? force india? i reckon sauber and lotus are gonna get some solid points this round thats for sure

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No idea. I've been out of the loop for the last few weeks.
That's why I'm going to avoid FP3 now so that Q is as exciting as it can be. This new tyre gap and the week of testing should definitely mix things up.
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Quali crew checking in. Flying solo tonight?
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im waiting patiently. will probs fall asleep

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I'm wide awake. Seeing Jaytech in a few hours so going to be a long night.
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present. been watching this for the last half hour.

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wow, its super windy even for catalunya. could be interesting.

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oh yeah, martin describing why i fucking hate this track.
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RBR straight out on the options...interesting.
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Why have the RBRs not set a time yet?
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silly bruno...

@Fledz - they didn't bother using a set of the hards at all, so they waited until the second half to head out on softs.
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annoyed at senna for not putting vergne out in q1 again.

red bull were on the ball there, they knew that this being the first race of the year with a gap between compounds would mean everyone would end up out there on options.

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Yeah, risky but smart move from RBR.
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Webber out!
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Wtf?! Massive fuck up by RBR
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Hot damn, that was a hell of a finish to Q2.
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Oh Button is out too, shiiiiiieeeet.

Massa too but lol at expecting him to go top 10.
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button AND sick ****....wow.
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that will possibly work very well for webber. if its hot tomorrow he can start on hards and go hard hard new soft for an epic 2 stop podium whilst everyone elses softs fall off the cliff and do 3-4 stops.

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late checking. what did i miss? F1 site is fucked up
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this is the weirdest Q3 session ever.
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1 minute to go and only hamilton has set a time
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don't tell me alonso is gonna get pole
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!?!?
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this is going to be a bonkers race tomorrow...
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What the fuck is going on. Hamilton smashes it but Maldonado in second.
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weirdest. qualifying. ever.

i dont even.

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Um... Can someone explain what the fuck happened? I just checked the results and now I'm all what the fuck?
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so i go out drinking and come home to qualy results like this... did webber get sick again?

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So I saw this coming when lolton was told to stop on track after his lap because he "ran out of fuel"

his pole time has been stripped and he'll start from the back of the grid for failing to provide a fuel sample. Maldonado pole by default. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
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hahaha suck it Hamilton. I knew there was a penalty coming. Seemed a bit unfair at the time if Kobyashi is excluded from the final 10 shootout for not finishing, but Hamilton could keep pole for doing the same thing.

And the rule was put in place because of Hamilton.

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that's fucked, hamilton's bubble is going to burst and it's all mclaren's fault. fucking whitmarsh.

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I can't remember the last season where at least 6 guys could logically win the championship, this is shaping up to be the best season in decades if it keeps going on like this, thank fuck F1 ditched Bridgestone and went with the pirelli tyres, it's made such a massive difference.
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dunno about 6 guys, i think button and hamilton are out of the running due to mclaren's incompetence

kinda funny that this happened at the spanish gp. the stewarts would be delighted they could gift the race to alonso

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What awesome news to wake up to Williams Watch Alonso absolutely smoke him on the line. I would also think Maldonado will drop back pretty quick.
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dunno about 6 guys, i think button and hamilton are out of the running due to mclaren's incompetence

kinda funny that this happened at the spanish gp. the stewarts would be delighted they could gift the race to alonso

That's the thing though, no particular team has managed to get on a roll yet, button, Hamilton, Webber, Vettel, Raikannen (so maybe 5 guys) could all win this championship this year.
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They really do throw the book at Hamilton when ever they get the chance. Back of the grid. That has to be a joke?
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That's the thing though, no particular team has managed to get on a roll yet, button, Hamilton, Webber, Vettel, Raikannen (so maybe 5 guys) could all win this championship this year.

alonso will win it. i called it last year and im sticking to it!

webber is in a great position for a podium. 3 new sets of hards and a new set of softs. his other 2 sets of softs only have 1 flying lap on them too.

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Yeah it is harsh, I don't quite understand why he wasn't just pushed back to where Koboyashi sits on the grid, Hamilton did legitimately qualify in Q2 & Q3. Still a great result though
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They really do throw the book at Hamilton when ever they get the chance. Back of the grid. That has to be a joke?

rules are rules. Everyone knows them (or should know them anyway) and it's unfair on everyone else if they selectively let them slide
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Fell asleep between Q2 and Q3 last night Just finished watching the Beeb coverage now. Bonkers.
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rules are rules. Everyone knows them (or should know them anyway) and it's unfair on everyone else if they selectively let them slide

what penalties are available?
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Here is the steward statement:

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"A team member had put an insufficient quantity of fuel into the car, thereby resulting in the car having to be stopped on the circuit in order to be able to provide the required amount for sampling purposes,”

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"The Stewards determine that this is a breach of Article 6.6.2 of the FIA Formula One Technical Regulations and the Competitor is accordingly excluded from the results of the Qualifying Session. The Competitor is however allowed to start the race from the back of the grid."

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...2/5/13340.html

Regs: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...09-03-2012.pdf [pdf]

I can't find a doc that lists available penalties, but there is this:

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If a driver is deemed by the stewards to have stopped unnecessarily on the circuit or impeded another driver during qualifying, his times may be cancelled.

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/ru...ulations/8686/
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It's trying to gain an unfair advantage, so the penalty is fine by me. I'd expect anybody to get the same treatment. If he had enough fuel to get back to the pits, he wouldn't have qualified .4 of a second faster, because that's roughly how much one lap's fuel is.
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Ah makes more sense. Koboyashi had no choice to pull the car over due to hydraulic failure, so couldn't continue. Sounds like Hamilton purely ran out of fuel and Mclaren tried to mask it by saying there was a fault with the car at the end of the run.
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rules are rules. Everyone knows them (or should know them anyway) and it's unfair on everyone else if they selectively let them slide

Totally agree, Mclaren should be at the top of the table but have managed to sabotage their own chances so far this season.
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Yeah, McLaren claimed force majeure as there is an allowance for that in the rules. Stewards said lol no.

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It's trying to gain an unfair advantage, so the penalty is fine by me. I'd expect anybody to get the same treatment. If he had enough fuel to get back to the pits, he wouldn't have qualified .4 of a second faster, because that's roughly how much one lap's fuel is.

I believe it's more like .4sec per 10kg fuel, and 10kg is about 3 laps worth on average. If it was .4sec/lap they'd be going like 30sec quicker at the end of the race. The improvement is more like 5-10sec on average.

According to James Allen and some post-quali BBC vids, they just fucked up:

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How did it happen? My BBC colleague Gary Anderson saw the refuelling and said this, “The fuel rig guy put the rig on, but he had the handle set to drain fuel. He discovered his mistake and switched it to put fuel in the car. But as a result he didn’t put as much fuel in it as he should have. He (Hamilton) went across the start-finish line 20 seconds before the chequered flag but if they had sat in the garage for three or four more seconds to get more fuel in, they still would have had time to cross the line and complete another flying lap. Sometimes I don’t think McLaren think on their feet.”

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