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Morning JRod.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/next-...ever-e3/089421

"Both the Xbox 360 successor AND a follow up to the PS3 will be shown at E3 2012.

The LA show tease will come as Wii U launch details are locked in – and should ensure no ground is lost between competing consoles.

It will mark the very first time in the show’s 17-year history that three fresh, rival console formats will be so directly comparable.

Microsoft has long been rumoured to detail its next-gen plans at E3 2012, and MCV's third-party publishing sources claim the firm had signalled to partners this will happen.

The 360 is one of the longest-serving games consoles in history. But the real surprise is an early move from Sony. Execs at the PlayStation firm have made it clear to third-parties that they will not be left behind this time.

Execs aren’t expecting price or launch details for the new Xbox or PlayStation. But their unveiling could be a perfect spoiler to the pre-Christmas launch date and price that will be revealed for Wii U in June.


No official source, won't stop the rumour mill continuing though.

would you look at that, my predictions might be right after all.

though, having read about the integration of windows 9 between xbox/ windows phone and windows computers/tablets, considering windows 8 hasnt been released yet, im thinking maybe the next xbox will release with windows 8, and windows 9 will be a better/ more integrated system that will be an update to reinvigorate the xbox a year or 2 later.

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The next gen is going to be all about smelloscope.
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The next gen is going to be all about smelloscope.

Smellophone is just around the corner.

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All they ever do is show tech demos running on high-end PCs.
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E3 this year? So with about 1-1.5 years of hype and further development we're looking at late 2013, probably around Christmas for the new PS and XBOX. A bit earlier than expected but not by much.
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E3 is in june. wii U will come out end of this year. i reckon xbox and ps3 will be out early 2013 instead of late 2012 or 2013.
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I think your wrong j-rod.

They only reason the next playstation and xbox will launch this year is to compete with nintendo. If they do it will be before the end of the year. Consoles launch for the Christmas shopping, not after it which is a quieter time for releases.

The PS3 launched on November 11, 2006

The 360 on November 21, 2005
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I think your wrong j-rod.

They only reason the next playstation and xbox will launch this year is to compete with nintendo. If they do it will be before the end of the year. Consoles launch for the Christmas shopping, not after it which is a quieter time for releases.

The PS3 launched on November 11, 2006

The 360 on November 21, 2005

or they could release it early in 2013, still getting sales on their current gen stuff in the meantime, letting it stretch out a little whilst theres a change over period. then lower the prices to what they originally intended in november for the holiday period and make more sales then?

slow half year launch but good publicity as word spreads, sales increase, and by the time its xmas, everyone wants one and theyre cheaper.
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You clearly don't understand what Christmas means to retailers. Just stop.
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i didnt realise you'd studied retail and marketing, im sorry.
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I worked in retail, work in sales and have studied marketing. Apology accepted
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JRod was your resolution this year to try harder?
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Morning JRod.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/next-...ever-e3/089421

"Both the Xbox 360 successor AND a follow up to the PS3 will be shown at E3 2012.

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No official source, won't stop the rumour mill continuing though.

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would you look at that, my predictions might be right after all.

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E3 is in june. wii U will come out end of this year. i reckon xbox and ps3 will be out early 2013 instead of late 2012 or 2013.



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There’s been a lot of Internet buzz of late regarding an MCV story that states that both Sony and Microsoft will show off PlayStation 4 and the next Xbox at E3 2012 this June in Los Angeles. But according to videogame analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities, that’s not going to happen.

“I think there’s zero chance of a tease from Sony for PlayStation 4 and only a 20 percent chance from Microsoft that they’ll tease the next Xbox,” said Pachter. “Neither console is launching in 2013, so there’s no reason to tease them in 2012.”

Even Nintendo, which is launching its HD Wii U later this year, waited until E3 2011 to show off the device. Nintendo will also have the new console at CES 2012 in Las Vegas January 10-13.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaud...n-4-at-e3-2012

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LOL are you looking at who this is "according to"?

anyway, SONY defiantely arent anouncing

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/s...ation-4-at-e3/

thats confirmed. i still reckon xbox will, the sony thing was a bit of a surprise anyway.
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Yes (I at least read the links I post J-Rod ) it's according to Michael Pachter who is extremely credible. And even then, it's not definite, but is more reliable than your Kotaku/MCV crystal ball.

1/3 correct so far. 3/3 coming soon.
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I'm not keeping score.
What has JRod theorised correctly so far?
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I'm not keeping score.
What has JRod theorised correctly so far?

he accidentally the 1:1 ratio.
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we'll just wait and see at e3.
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anyway, SONY defiantely arent anouncing

WE WILL NOT ANNOUNCE.

GO AWAY.

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Apart from the tablet-like controller of the Wii U, and unique games designed for it, Nintendo is really just playing catch-up.

Even if its graphical capabilities are 4x what the 360 is capable of, it's not really that much better really. First party titles will still look like low-poly count models, but in HD, and most developers will still prefer to develop on the consoles that already have a wide user base.

iPad owners will probably not be interested at all in the Wii-pad.

Microsoft and Sony need not feel threatened and should take their time with the design of a new console. I'm hoping they can utilise stock PCI-X graphics cards, even if the rest of the console is not upgradeable.

There's still far too many games on current gen (and last gen) that we are all still trying to find the time to play.
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And I'd sure like an upgrade to the Xbox 360 that allows the use of SSD drives to fasten loading times (grrr. Skyrim!). Although I'm not sure how limiting the USB bandwidth is.

Apparently Major Nelson has an SSD for his 360.

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Can you do SSD on a PS3? I never really thought about it actually, but the HDD is easy enough to replace with a normal laptop drive... certainly would make load times much faster.
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Yea but didn't Nintendo sell more units and turn a larger profit though?
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The Wii was the best selling console by a fair margin (outselling the 260 by 25 million units)

Probably attributed to fat bitches buying fitness games so they can work out from home without ridicule

The Nintendo DS is surprisingly the second best selling console of all time just behind the PS2.
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Google search says that people have tried using SSDs for their PS3s.

It's not possible for Xbox 360 currently as you need the firmware to support it. The firmware only supports WD drives of certain sizes.

If somebody wrote a hack so that the firmware just sees the SSD as a stock WD hard drive then it may work.

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Developers wanting to make more ambitious games like Skyrim and Mass Effect are not really going to choose the Wii platform due to its technical shortcomings. eg. lack of a hard drive. And it'll be two years before the Wii U really has a solid user base.

So many gamers have now sold their Wiis. I wouldn't be surprised if there are now more 360s/PS3s in homes than Wiis.

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yeah i cant see a tablet controller having the same effect as the first motion controller did.
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That is a load of absolute shit.
What do you base any of your comments on?
Explain yourself.
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So many gamers have now sold their Wiis. I wouldn't be surprised if there are now more 360s/PS3s in homes than Wiis.

If I sold my Wii, is the Wii to owner ratio still 1:1?
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The casual market is where the money was and more than likely still is. Nintendo dominated there and will probably dominate again.
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Yes it is...

The 6.5 million people who downloaded Angry Birds on Christmas Day is evidence of that.
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That is a load of absolute shit.
What do you base any of your comments on?
Explain yourself.

lol wtf man, its just my opinion
hence the "i cant see" bit at the beginning.

if the Wii U is as expensive as its supposed to be (because of the controllers.) and if the next xbox does seamessly integrate windows phones and tablets, plus im sure they'll have kinect of some sort, its got alot of apeal to the casual market too. plus itll be a DVR by the sounds of it, and you get foxtel and what not on it.

i can just see it being alot more successful this time around in comparison.

it just seems to have so much more to offer than what the Wii U is.

this is based off what weve seen and read so far. things could change, dont get your panties in a knot.
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The Wii and Xbox target markets are two totally different things. The Wii-U controller looks cool, they have integrated some stuff from the 3DS which is nice. How do you know how expensive it will be jrod when they have never stated the price
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if the Wii U is as expensive as its supposed to be (because of the controllers.) and if the next xbox does seamessly integrate windows phones and tablets, plus im sure they'll have kinect of some sort, its got alot of apeal to the casual market too. plus itll be a DVR by the sounds of it, and you get foxtel and what not on it.

i can just see it being alot more successful this time around in comparison.

it just seems to have so much more to offer than what the Wii U is.

Putting aside that there is no confirmed pricing on the WiiU or the next XBOX's specs...
All that integration is not what the casual market currently wants and I don't think they will for some time, that's all hardcore/tech people care about.
Think about it, a lot of that is already available already on the current XBOX, and the Wii has outsold it many times over - even the PS3 is outselling the XBOX in most markets now.

Also, the WiiU is backwards compatible, which is probably it's greatest feature. So that current Wii install base of 90 million already have a library of games to play. And I dare say a few of the people who sold their Wii's will get a lot of the older games they missed out on since giving up on the Wii to play them.
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each to their own, i just dont think itll be as big a hit as the wii was.
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Think about it, a lot of that is already available already on the current XBOX, and the Wii has outsold it many times over - even the PS3 is outselling the XBOX in most markets now.

They still have enough excslusives. I almost bought a 360 until I realised that virtually every game worth buying I already had on PC and they are 40 million times better on PC anyway.
Will probably get a PS3 for sweet Uncharted, LBP, Heavy Rain, RDR action and so on.
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Hopefully Nintendo give out their developer software to third party companies with the Wii U. I swear that with the Wii they kept it to themselves - all the decent games are published/produced by Nintendo.
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my predictions might be right after all.

Predicting something you've read?

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next gen xbox dev chips in production?

http://www.thisisxbox.com/360/next-g...to-production/

i dont understand all the jargon for the chip but i found this which i think is related

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/17/m...landsgcn-leak/

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384-bit memory bus, that means 3GB cards

http://wccftech.com/amds-generation-...-specs-leaked/
theres some more info on the HD7000 chips here but im not 100% sure theyre related, as i said, i dont understand the jargon.
but if anyone can get any info on what these new xbox dev chips might have in the guts fill me in please
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